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Post subject: Fender Bolt-On Necks
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:22 pm
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I was reading Guitar Playing For Dummies or something like that, because that's my level okay. They were talking about how Gibsons have a neck that's joined to the body, not just bolted on like Fenders, while Jackson has a neck-through-body. Definitely the Dummies book was talking like a bolt-on neck is a cheaper and not as good, while acknowledging that a lot of artists play Fenders. What's the big deal about the joined neck? I get the downside of damage that can't be fixed from a joined neck. With a Fender, you can just buy another neck and bolt it on. Several of you all were helpful about one of my other questions recently explaining things, and so how about explaining what is supposed to be better about a joined neck compared to a bolt-on neck?

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Mostly it's about resonance. The neck thru joint has the neck going into the body about as deep as the neck pup. This makes for a more resonant body, as well as a more stable joint.

That being said, find the right strat and you're just as resonant as a Gibson in my opinion. Wood quality has as much to do with it as the way the neck is mounted. I have no problem with a bolt on neck. It definately keeps construction costs down, thus a less expensive guitar. In the end it's still which guitar you like best.

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well said


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Post subject: Re: Fender Bolt-On Necks
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:07 pm
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I was reading Guitar Playing For Dummies or something like that, because that's my level okay. They were talking about how Gibsons have a neck that's joined to the body, not just bolted on like Fenders, while Jackson has a neck-through-body. Definitely the Dummies book was talking like a bolt-on neck is a cheaper and not as good, while acknowledging that a lot of artists play Fenders. What's the big deal about the joined neck? I get the downside of damage that can't be fixed from a joined neck. With a Fender, you can just buy another neck and bolt it on. Several of you all were helpful about one of my other questions recently explaining things, and so how about explaining what is supposed to be better about a joined neck compared to a bolt-on neck?

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have to be a weight lifter. there loads period.
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Gibson's are meant to sound, look, and feel like Gibson's.
Fender's are meant to sound, look, and feel like Fender's.

That's just the way it is and should be.

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Gibson's are meant to sound, look, and feel like Gibson's.
Fender's are meant to sound, look, and feel like Fender's.

That's just the way it is and should be.

you are right


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Both companies have crossed over to the other neck style.

At least, Fender has done set necks before. I'm not entirely sure Gibson (as Gibson, not Epiphone) has done bolt-on necks.


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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 7:44 pm
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Both companies have crossed over to the other neck style.

At least, Fender has done set necks before. I'm not entirely sure Gibson (as Gibson, not Epiphone) has done bolt-on necks.


Gibson did bolt on necks in the '70's and '80's on certain 'modern' (think Fender style with a Gibson twist) models, but they didn't sell well.

Bolt-on necks VS set-in necks VS neck-through bodies are all different animals. Bridge design and scale length have nearly as much to do with it as construction. Sometimes, even more so.

I love my Fenders, but I love my Rick 4003 bass and my Hamer USA models (Gibson style construction, I think Hamers are the best Gibsons Gibson never made, Hamer is now owned by Fender). It all depends on what I need for the style of music I play at that moment. They're all valid, and all different. Variety is the spice of life and music.

BTW, a bolt-on neck does NOT equate cheap construction to me. It definitely DOES mean that I'll never have to unglue the neck to fix the neck angle if needed.


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I've got both bolt on and set necks. I believe there is a difference in the tone. (No neck throughs, yet.)

But that doesn't mean that one is inherently superior.

One reason for a bias by many against bolt on necks is that so many cheap guitars have them. So there's a stigma attached to them, as bolt on gets associated with the cheap guitars. And on many of them the neck joint is not done well. The bolts/screws/etc may be weak. the rout for the neck may not be snug enough and thus gives lots of room for the neck to move-including being caused by humidity.

So bolt ons have that stigma--and for some people so does Fender.

But like I said--I have both and I like both.

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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:48 pm
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Everybody! I agree with you all! It's all about what the player likes; as is so much we talk about here.
In theory 1 piece guitars are best; but that's not practical from any standpoint nor nessesary; just look at Stradivari violins; they are built from many pieces; yet are the most sought after in the world.
Yep; the same theory applies to all conventional stringed instruments.
It could be bolt on necks affect the sound in such a way that we find it pleasing; so from that point of view bolt ons are cool. The same case can be made for any method of construction so again there is no "best way" to join neck and body, only what the player prefers.
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Chet is the man. He said it well.

And everybody out there making guitars uses one of the 3 joint techniques. Who cares what they are as long as the guitar plays and sounds and feels great?


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Chet, can I start calling you Yoda? :D

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coooooorrrrrrect :D


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I have a set neck tele, sounds great, and has sustain for days!!! Does a great job of sounding like a lp, but i have never heard a lp sound like a tele or a strat!!


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personaly i think the gibson les paul
is very overrated. i have played them in the past
and i think there tone is as weak as water compared
to the fender strat.


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