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Post subject: Re: the ones that got away.
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:05 am
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Hi , SK
I'm sorry - I have no particular story like that. Thats more like ''the story of my life'' :lol:

And - yes , there has been a similar thread on this forum 8)

Finally: Obviously the Dano doubleneck is not just a ''one-of-a-kind'' , but the gold top might be. Anyway, my local guitarshop (/webshop) offers this one :
http://gitarhuset.no/Produkter/Gitarer1 ... 0000010763

It is priced pretty close to the American Special Strat.
My personal experience with other Dano's is pretty good! :D

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Post subject: Re: the ones that got away.
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:08 am
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I don't let any of them get away

I guess that's why I open my "guitar closet" and see 20 cases staring back at me..


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Post subject: Re: the ones that got away.
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:56 am
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Several years ago I saw what could arguably be called my dream guitar but there was no way I could afford it, priced at almost $5K. It was a PRS 513 with an amazing quilted top. Definitely better than a 10-top although that's how it was labeled. It was more like a Private Stock top with very beautiful bird inlays. The 513 could be loosely described as a set-neck Strat with more switching options than you ever imagined possible. I played the guitar for about 5 minutes and had to put it down. I couldn't justify torturing myself any longer.

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Post subject: Re: the ones that got away.
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 11:46 am
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The way I see it, even expensive electric guitars aren't really that expensive, unless you succumb to GAS and have to expand your house to fit them all.
Ask a cellist how much she paid for her instrument, and pick your jaw up from the floor. $50k+ is not uncommon.
And if you pay $30-60k for a car that depreciates to nothing in less than a decade, why would you balk at paying a tiny fraction of that for a guitar? Which takes you even more places?

I would not walk away from a guitar because of the price. I can always get a loan or credit if I don't have the cash. I walk away from them because I am picky and don't want a guitar I don't know I am going to play.


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Post subject: Re: the ones that got away.
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 1:44 pm
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arth1 wrote:
The way I see it, even expensive electric guitars aren't really that expensive, unless you succumb to GAS and have to expand your house to fit them all.
Ask a cellist how much she paid for her instrument, and pick your jaw up from the floor. $50k+ is not uncommon.
And if you pay $30-60k for a car that depreciates to nothing in less than a decade, why would you balk at paying a tiny fraction of that for a guitar? Which takes you even more places?

I would not walk away from a guitar because of the price. I can always get a loan or credit if I don't have the cash. I walk away from them because I am picky and don't want a guitar I don't know I am going to play.


Wow, I cannot imagine 50K on an instrument. I understand the perspective you put it in, but that is a major chunk of a house. If I purchased one of those I would need an extra case to sleep in. I would love to drop 4-5K each on some guitars, I just can't bring myself to do it. Not unless I'm going to use it to make more than that back, like an investment type situation. As a player, I can get really good instruments for under a grand. Perhaps if I had more disposable income I would change my mind some.

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Post subject: Re: the ones that got away.
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 3:06 pm
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Wow. That is very nice. As much as I like the looks of PRS, I've never gotten the chance to play any of the higher end models.

PRS is an acquired taste IMO. Not all models sound good to my ears. Most models have a slightly wider and flatter frequency response than a Strat and definitely more than a Les Paul. Some models seem to have significantly less dynamic range than a Fender. Other models seem only a little less dynamic. It's a different sound that sometimes defies description. Youtube vids do not give you an accurate impression. You have to play them. As a Fender lover I tend to gravitate to the models that have the option of single coils. I had a quilt-top Custom 22 (with a rotary switch for coil tapping) for a couple of years and even though I loved the balance, the feel and the quality I didn't bond with the sound so I reluctantly sold it. It represented too large an investment for me to justify swapping pups.

Two things a typical PRS has that I wish every guitar had: the best locking tuners ever invented and the most linear sounding pots I've ever encountered. I loved the pots so much I went to the trouble of buying a set of four and installed them in my Epi Les Paul. Noticable improvement over the Genuine Gibsons I had previously installed because the stock Epi pots were bunk.

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Post subject: Re: the ones that got away.
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 5:41 pm
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I love my (lower cost) PRS. It's very shred friendly, and sounds pretty good, especially for bass.
And I still haven't seen a PRS that didn't look pretty.

The one thing I don't like, and this is the case for most Ibanezes too, is the very flat back of the neck. It makes my hand tired very quickly. I want my guitar necks to be stamped with "SLUGGER", not "One size fits all, size 7-9". I'm almost thinking there might be a market for neck expanders to attach to the back of guitar necks.


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Post subject: Re: the ones that got away.
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:45 pm
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PRS has two neck profiles. Three actually but two are extremely close.
There's wide/thin and wide/fat.
There used to be a McCarty profile (which they called a 'pattern') but it was so close to wide/fat that it was discontinued some years back.

There's a significant difference between wide/thin and wide/fat. You likely have the wide/thin neck on yours. Neither of them are particularly V-shaped if that's what you're looking for. I liked the wide/thin on my Cu22.

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Post subject: Re: the ones that got away.
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:21 pm
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The local shop has a reverse blue burst Precision Plus, with all the bells and whistles. It's still there, but I can't get it in my budget. I freaked when I first saw it. I bought a well worn gem of a Standard Jazz from there, and that's more than good enough for me.


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Post subject: Re: the ones that got away.
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 6:16 am
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Since I got my first in 1964 at the tender age of 10,I have lost count of the "Ones that got away".The lost guitars that I really feel bad about losing out on are a 1961 SG bodied Les Paul Custom with 3 gold plated PAFs and a 1964 Firebird VII with the Maestro Vibrola.One that's on the list that would surprise most people is an, Epiphone '59 Les Paul Reissue,that guitar was clearly the best Les Paul that I'd ever played,it was sublime in every way and it was just a tad over $1,000.The bookmatched maple cap was one of the most impressive I've ever seen,the two sides were practically mirror images of each other and the action,playability and finish were just stellar.There was also a 12 string MIJ Strat I saw in my local music store earlier this year for $700 but after buying 3 guitars, a couple of amps and a few new effects pedals in the preceding months,I knew there would be a nuclear melt down to rival Chernobyl if I took it home with me.

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Post subject: Re: the ones that got away.
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 6:12 pm
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December 1984, I am in the Navy and transferring from Groton, CT to San Diego, CA. Before I leave they give me travel pay and two weeks advance pay. I am driving an old '72 El Camino and make it a point to stop by Gruhn Guitars in Nashville, TN.

For reasons that I no longer recall I had my heart set on a Fender Broadcaster. Unfortunately Mr. Gruhn did not have a Broadcaster in stock on the day I showed up.

He had a room full of vintage beauties (Vintage for 1984, not 2014) There were a couple of nocasters and several old 'blackguard' teles for around $1800. I think I recall a beautiful '50's White Falcon for around $900.

Long story short, the only time in my life when I had the money and the choice of several nice vintage guitars that would be worth a small fortune today, I walked out with nothing. I really had my mind set on a Broadcaster and figured I'd save my money and get it when one became available.

Unfortunately I blew the money and never had the chance again. It was probably for the best. I was young and stupid and there's no telling what would've happened to any guitar I bought that day.

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Post subject: Re: the ones that got away.
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:06 pm
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BMW-KTM wrote:
You likely have the wide/thin neck on yours. Neither of them are particularly V-shaped if that's what you're looking for.

V-shaped and round both work, as long as I can give sideways support when I bend or pull, and rest the neck against my palm when I thumb-fret. Thin necks are good for shredding, but they do make my hand hurt pretty quickly, as everything has to be thumb braced.
It could also be that I'm not 20 anymore. :)


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Post subject: Re: the ones that got away.
Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 9:22 pm
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arth1 wrote:
I'm almost thinking there might be a market for neck expanders to attach to the back of guitar necks.


I've actually experimented with this. I used a slim neck and attached shaped cardboard pieces to try and determine what profile felt the most comfortable. I made the different attachments according to specs I found for the most common profiles. Then played each one for an hour or so for comparison. I even rotated it around the neck for an asymmetrical feel. I did not intend to keep the extension attached but if there were a high quality way to do this I would definitely consider it. I found that a "Rounded 59 LP" shape was by far the most comfortable. I thought it would be cool if Warmoth or other companies offered a test kit you could play with before ordering a custom neck. I never considered this profile before that and have now purchased a guitar with that neck profile. For people with big hands, fatigue/cramping from smaller or thinner necks is a problem.

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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 6:48 am
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Over the last 14 years or so, I've tried out several guitars at Guitar Center which I couldn't afford or I just did not take a liking to. One which I really liked but was out of my price range , was a Jimmie Vaughn Signature series Strat in a really sweet looking, Vintage White which to me, had the ultimate Strat tone. To this day , if I could swing it, I would definitely go and get one. That is my dream guitar.


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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 1:23 pm
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Deluxe Matt wrote:
arth1 wrote:
I'm almost thinking there might be a market for neck expanders to attach to the back of guitar necks.


I've actually experimented with this. I used a slim neck and attached shaped cardboard pieces to try and determine what profile felt the most comfortable. I made the different attachments according to specs I found for the most common profiles. Then played each one for an hour or so for comparison. I even rotated it around the neck for an asymmetrical feel. I did not intend to keep the extension attached but if there were a high quality way to do this I would definitely consider it. I found that a "Rounded 59 LP" shape was by far the most comfortable. I thought it would be cool if Warmoth or other companies offered a test kit you could play with before ordering a custom neck. I never considered this profile before that and have now purchased a guitar with that neck profile. For people with big hands, fatigue/cramping from smaller or thinner necks is a problem.


Interesting. Yes, some guitars certainly make my hands ache or go weak faster than others, which is probably why my SG and American Tele with relatively fat necks are my favorite guitars for long sessions.

I wonder whether a few layers of lacquer would help. Just a millimeter or two can make a difference.


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