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Post subject: Re: Battle Scars, or whatever it's called.
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 2:21 pm
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It's easy to tell the difference between a "dumb $@! relic" , a "real relic", and an "artist rendered relic". A "dumbass relic" is done by a "dumbass" and they are ever so easy to spot. A "real relic" MAY just have some relic smell to it and it is extremely hard to fake one. They just look like and are the real deal. The "REAL relic" is near impossible to fake. An "artist rendered relic" such as the ones done at Fender and by certain other sources are very time consuming and expensive to do for the most part. Using the proper procedures to do an "art relic" is in fact artisitic IMO and I can appreciate them. Over all though -- isn't it all about sound and play-a-bility?


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Post subject: Re: Battle Scars, or whatever it's called.
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 2:23 pm
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captainc wrote:
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Here we go again. :lol:

The early stages of another relic battle.

Think I'm gonna settle into a nice big comfy chair and grab some popcorn to enjoy while I watch the "show".


yup :lol:


Yeah just put on my comfy shoes and now kicking back to see how this one unfolds and who gets riled
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Post subject: Re: Battle Scars, or whatever it's called.
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 2:26 pm
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mud wrote:
Yeah just put on my comfy shoes and now kicking back to see how this one unfolds and who gets riled
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Post subject: Re: Battle Scars, or whatever it's called.
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 5:59 pm
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G'day, OK I'll play the game 8) My thoughts are about my resonators and play-wear. I love the look of a nice aged reso.

Firstly, my nickel plated Tricone (Recording King). I bought this new.

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I'd like to see this oxidize to a nice grey patina like an old coin but I don't think I'll see this happen any time soon. I'm starting to see some dull areas appearing and a bit of tarnishing where I rest my hand on the T bar. I often consider speeding up the aging process, mainly due to the finger marks driving me nuts. I'll be patient.

Next, I have the Gretsch (Honeydipper). It came new with the "pump house roof" finish.

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This is almost the opposite as far as patina goes. It's a dull coating which wears away on the high traffic areas to reveal the shiny nickel underneath. This is most evident when you look at the protected area under the strings. I think this one will look great after a few more years of playing.

And last but not least, my 82 year old National Triolian.

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This has the sort of aging you just can't imitate, the result of many years of use. The guitar is surprisingly well cared for and has all the original parts. The flaky finish is due to the inconsistent paint quality of the era. The gray galvanized coating has been exposed and in the most heavily worn areas, the bare steel, which has in turn oxidized. She is completely dent free.
I find the effects of time fascinating, and the look of this guitar is why I chose it over more pristine examples.

As far as the whole Relic debate goes, well I won't get too involved. I do think that a convincing relic job is difficult to achieve. This is what makes it an artform.

I won't be arguing about fake mojo and belt sanders :lol:

Goodonyaz ....Mark.


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Post subject: Re: Battle Scars, or whatever it's called.
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:52 pm
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The 82 year old National looks awesome.


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Post subject: Re: Battle Scars, or whatever it's called.
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:54 pm
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...biting my tongue...


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Post subject: Re: Battle Scars, or whatever it's called.
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:20 pm
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headband wrote:
These so called "Relic" guitars are incorrectly named.
They should be called, imitation relic, fake relic, relic-like or faux relic.

I agree with this. The term is demeaning to genuine relics.


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Post subject: Re: Battle Scars, or whatever it's called.
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:23 pm
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A lot of people selling their used guitars make the mistake of telling prospective buyers how long they have owned it,what they have to do is just tell the buyer that it's a 3 month old relic'ed guitar and they'll get 70-80% of full retail price for it.

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Post subject: Re: Battle Scars, or whatever it's called.
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 10:20 am
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A lot of people selling their used guitars make the mistake of telling prospective buyers how long they have owned it,what they have to do is just tell the buyer that it's a 3 month old relic'ed guitar and they'll get 70-80% of full retail price for it.


Maybe. If the relicing doesn't look like a joke.

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Post subject: Re: Battle Scars, or whatever it's called.
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 2:39 pm
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Nice 8)

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Post subject: Re: Battle Scars, or whatever it's called.
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 3:06 pm
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Those resonators look like they would be a lot of fun to play. 8)

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Post subject: Re: Battle Scars, or whatever it's called.
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 3:20 pm
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Deluxe Matt wrote:
Those resonators look like they would be a lot of fun to play. 8)

Yes mate, 90% of what I do these days is on a Reso.
One open chord will get peoples attention. The sound seems to stir something deep inside folk's genetic memory. It's a pity that Fender don't make high end one.
Anyway, back on topic ...
... How's this (fake) relic :lol:

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Post subject: Re: Battle Scars, or whatever it's called.
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 4:40 pm
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I like old looking things. I also appreciate the styling of the 50's and 60's, even though that was just before my time. There is just something appealing about desktop radios and the lines on the cars of the time. Many timeless styles developed, for example the Tele and Strat. What a time that must have been for electric guitars of all kinds. I think I would prefer the style but not relic'ed to look old.

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Post subject: Re: Battle Scars, or whatever it's called.
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 4:48 pm
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I wouldn't want to come across as pro-relic. It's hard to have a balanced discussion with some of the extremists here though. There's some terrible relics out there. Look at this abomination :lol:

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Post subject: Re: Battle Scars, or whatever it's called.
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 5:57 pm
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I can't stand having a new or mint bass. I'm too afraid to scratch them and it makes me nervous. I also don't care for instruments that don't age well. You kinda have to keep a Rickenbacker mint or it just looks bad, for example.


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