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Post subject: Battle Scars, or whatever it's called.
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 2:26 pm
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Many like the look, and many excuse what happened through out the guitar's life as desirable, admirable, and storied history. So why do they collect half the price (if any interest at all) on Craigslist or eBay?


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Post subject: Re: Battle Scars, or whatever it's called.
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 2:36 pm
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Probably because some people reason (myself included) that if a guitar is that beat up, it's never been looked after properly
Would you treat a car like that?

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Post subject: Re: Battle Scars, or whatever it's called.
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 2:39 pm
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Beat up, over-used, abused or severly Road Worn guitars aren't attractive because many have Playability/Tone issues.

People want relic'd instruments because they play like new, but look as if they've been on the road for decades.

Buying used, people want to find one that looks as if it hasn't been used much. The same is true with classic cars, furniture and all other sorts of 'collectibles'.

The more pristine an example looks, in theory, the more Life that is left in it.

On the same note, I've always found it interesting that many people love the relic'd look on a Guitar, but there's apparently no market for relic'd re-issue Amps (or surely Fender would have produced them by now...)

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Post subject: Re: Battle Scars, or whatever it's called.
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 3:44 pm
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I hate the reliced look. I prefer my guitars to look as if they're well cared for.


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Post subject: Re: Battle Scars, or whatever it's called.
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 3:52 pm
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Just wait until they start trying to sell us on "relic'ed smell" or "vintage odor". :shock: I think I have unknowingly picked up some gear like this already. Good old rotting mouse odor!

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Post subject: Re: Battle Scars, or whatever it's called.
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 6:04 pm
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Here we go again. :lol:

The early stages of another relic battle.

Think I'm gonna settle into a nice big comfy chair and grab some popcorn to enjoy while I watch the "show".

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Post subject: Re: Battle Scars, or whatever it's called.
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 6:53 pm
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tvr1979 wrote:
Many like the look, and many excuse what happened through out the guitar's life as desirable, admirable, and storied history. So why do they collect half the price (if any interest at all) on Craigslist or eBay?

The same reason why most men don't fall for beat-up ladies with a colorful history, I would think.
Sure, it's the inner qualities that count, but possessing those more likely leads to being taken good care of, and not treated like trash. Trash tends to get treated like trash.


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Post subject: Re: Battle Scars, or whatever it's called.
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 6:58 pm
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I think some relic jobs are kinda cool looking. If it plays and sounds awesome I would be open minded to either one.
I always thought these look kinda cool:
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Post subject: Re: Battle Scars, or whatever it's called.
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 7:59 pm
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Trash tends to get treated like trash.


This? I love. Thanks.

That speaks volumes to me. I look at my own collection. Older. Newer. No difference. They all look the same. Not a scratch, not a ding and they all get played ... lots. Maybe a polishing swirl here and there, that's about it. If I have a guitar I don't respect, I sell it.

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Post subject: Re: Battle Scars, or whatever it's called.
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 8:23 pm
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I don't mind a few battle scars on a used guitar.
A bit of a discount is welcome too.

Now if I see a clearly homemade relic job, I run away.

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Post subject: Re: Battle Scars, or whatever it's called.
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orvilleowner wrote:
Now if I see a clearly homemade relic job, I run away.


Yes, definitely run. I loath home-relic jobs. It's like a crime against guitars.

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Post subject: Re: Battle Scars, or whatever it's called.
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 10:23 pm
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I can't care about how a guitar looks as long as it plays and sounds the way I want it to.

I've had ugly guitars and gorgeous guitars and just about every kind of condition in between.

My Guild is a hotrod. New frets, soon enough a new set of tuners, but under the hood is all original, even though it came from the factory loaded that way. Thinking back, all of my fukced up looking guitars were damn good. Even in the state I found it, the Guild still outplayed every other weapon in my arsenal.

There is an unwritten rule about old guitars: the better the condition, the higher the likelihood of it being a dog. I'm not saying that all good lookers are dogs, because that'd be a total lie, but I'm saying I'd be a bit more weary buying an old guitar that still looked new. I feel a lot more comfortable when there are visible issues and I can sort them out, having owned several vintage axes and fixing many to be playable once again.

However, if you find a vintage axe in pristine condition, for the right price, and if it gets you goin, then jump on it or you'll regret it.

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Post subject: Re: Battle Scars, or whatever it's called.
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:22 am
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These so called "Relic" guitars are incorrectly named.
They should be called, imitation relic, fake relic, relic-like or faux relic.

Definition of relic.
relic
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n.noun

Something that has survived the passage of time, especially an object or custom whose original culture has disappeared.
Something cherished for its age or historic interest.
An object kept for its association with the past; a memento.
An object of religious veneration, especially a piece of the body or a personal item of a saint.
A corpse; remains.


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Post subject: Re: Battle Scars, or whatever it's called.
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BMW-KTM wrote:
Here we go again. :lol:

The early stages of another relic battle.

Think I'm gonna settle into a nice big comfy chair and grab some popcorn to enjoy while I watch the "show".


yup :lol:

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Post subject: Re: Battle Scars, or whatever it's called.
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BMW-KTM wrote:
Here we go again. :lol:
The early stages of another relic battle.
Think I'm gonna settle into a nice big comfy chair and grab some popcorn to enjoy while I watch the "show".


Do maple fret-board relics sound better than rosewood relics?
Are MIA relics worth the price of triple what a MIM relic would cost?
What's the advantage of removing the trem spring cover from my relic?
and...

...I just blew my month's wage on this 1952 relic Strat. Is it real or a fake?

(couldn't resist) :oops:


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