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Post subject: Has anyone used the EH B9 pedal?
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:02 am
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The B9 is a pedal that simulates the sounds of classic rock n' roll organ types, such as the B3, Fender Rhodes... etc.

The demo video has me thinking it's a must have for me. I would love to add keyboard textures to my recordings but I don't own one. If I did, by the time I figured out how to play it.... well.... it would be a long road.

This is the EH promo video / demo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98u-MDT ... ture=share

Thoughts from the real world?


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Post subject: Re: Has anyone used the EH B9 pedal?
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:46 am
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One of my bandmates bought one. I was trying it out
last week and liked the tone on some, but not all of the
settings. There is definitely a learning curve also, as I noticed
the way you downpick or upstroke makes a big difference
in the output. I think with some time alone with it, after about
a month you could have it fine tuned enough to sound great!

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Post subject: Re: Has anyone used the EH B9 pedal?
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:48 pm
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Thanks Mike,

I noted that most of the demonstrators are using a four or five finger right hand pull rather than a strum. I think this helps create a more realistic chord-playing mode, since typically all keys are struck at once on a keyboard.

I'm wondering if the demo overpromises anything. It all sounds great and very organlike in the videos. But is that what you get in the real world, I wonder?


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Post subject: Re: Has anyone used the EH B9 pedal?
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:26 pm
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FemderMike,

I can't speak to the EH B9 pedal, but I recently bought a Hammond SK1-88 keyboard and I can say that the thing sounds very much like a Hammond B-3 with a Leslie 122. And at only 28 pounds, it's way lighter! (Sorry for the slight hijack but it's somewhat related and damn if I don't love the thing!)



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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 3:33 pm
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I have one. For a guitar stomp box I don't think you could possibly come closer to a true organ sound than the B9.

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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 3:46 pm
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Most of the reviews I've read were very positive, but one claimed there was annoying latency....Have those of you that own or have extensively played one experienced significant latency? I'm quite interested in this pedal myself.

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Post subject: Re: Has anyone used the EH B9 pedal?
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 9:30 am
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After using one for just a few minutes, here are my impressions:

Some latentcy if you bend a string (which is very prevalent in my playing style).

Excellent sound quality overall.

There's a learning curve to using it properly.

It responded very differently to "strummed with a plectrum" versus "fingerstyle" (I generally play the latter). Neither was better or worse, just different.

I want more time with it before I would in invest in one.

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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 11:07 am
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Screamin Armadillo wrote:
After using one for just a few minutes, here are my impressions:

Some latentcy if you bend a string (which is very prevalent in my playing style).

Excellent sound quality overall.

There's a learning curve to using it properly.

It responded very differently to "strummed with a plectrum" versus "fingerstyle" (I generally play the latter). Neither was better or worse, just different.

I want more time with it before I would in invest in one.

Thanks for the input. Please update us if you do spend more time with one.

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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 11:16 am
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Latency?
You heard there was something hidden or undeveloped in the B9?

Sorry. It's one of my pet peeves when industry takes a word and tries to redefine it for their own purposes just because they like the sound of it or are too lazy to explain things correctly. The traditional definition of the word latent has nothing to do with delayed response. Latent doesn't come from the word late.

OK, rant over.

The B9 does exhibit a very slight time lag but like anything in life where timing is important you adapt your playing to it very quickly. One has to imagine there must be a TON of processing going on there. The sound of a Hammond B3 is nothing at all like the sound an electric guitar makes. There's going to be some lag. I don't see how you could ever get around that. It's not tweaking a preexisting signal as it passes through the same way an overdrive does. It's generating a signal. By nature it is reactive. I think it's amazing it's as fast as it is. I love it.

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Post subject: Re: Has anyone used the EH B9 pedal?
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 11:37 am
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BMW-KTM wrote:
Latency?
You heard there was something hidden or undeveloped in the B9?

Sorry. It's one of my pet peeves when industry takes a word and tries to redefine it for their own purposes just because they like the sound of it or are too lazy to explain things correctly. The traditional definition of the word latent has nothing to do with delayed response. Latent doesn't come from the word late.

OK, rant over.

The B9 does exhibit a very slight time lag but like anything in life where timing is important you adapt your playing to it very quickly. One has to imagine there must be a TON of processing going on there. The sound of a Hammond B3 is nothing at all like the sound an electric guitar makes. There's going to be some lag. I don't see how you could ever get around that. It's not tweaking a preexisting signal as it passes through the same way an overdrive does. It's generating a signal. By nature it is reactive. I think it's amazing it's as fast as it is. I love it.

And thank you also. Sorry for hitting on one of your pet peeves. It is commonly used, even though incorrectly, to refer to delay. So from now on, I'll refer to the phenomena as delay.
It makes sense what you're saying regarding recreating a signal.

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I can see the usefulness of such a pedal in a situation with 2 guitarists but no keyboardists (as the situation in my band), but luckily I didn't start GASsing over the pedal after seeing the review :lol: It can be useful, but I wouldn't want my guitar sounding like an organ. If I preferred that sound, I would have been learning to play organ instead of guitar :)

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BMW-KTM wrote:
Latency?
You heard there was something hidden or undeveloped in the B9?

Sorry. It's one of my pet peeves when industry takes a word and tries to redefine it for their own purposes just because they like the sound of it or are too lazy to explain things correctly. The traditional definition of the word latent has nothing to do with delayed response. Latent doesn't come from the word late.


You're too late. More than 130 years late.

latency (n.)
1630s, "condition of being concealed," from latent + -cy. Meaning "delay between stimulus and response" is from 1882; computer sense (latency time) is from 1954.
Source: Online Etymology Dictionary (Douglas Harper)


I guess you insist on calling an amplifier a stentorphone too, so it won't be confused with a real amplifier like yeast.


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Sorry for hitting on one of your pet peeves.

You haven't offended me. Everyone does it. That's the nature of pet peeves. Something you have no control over that you don't feel is right.

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BMW-KTM wrote:
IM4Tone wrote:
Sorry for hitting on one of your pet peeves.

You haven't offended me. Everyone does it. That's the nature of pet peeves. Something you have no control over that you don't feel is right.

Yep...mine are the incorrect use of the terms Tremolo and Vibrato. Seems like Fender got these wrong way back when. Tremolo bar on a Strat and Vibrato on many of their amps....NOT :shock:

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I think that mixing the straight guitar with the organ is something that has tremendous creative potential, like creating clouds of sounds the straight guitar will ride on.

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