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Post subject: Buying second hand mustang amps already registered
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 1:51 pm
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Hi all I'm thinking of getting my daughter a fender mustang mini or V2 III amp.
She is a learner, and will probably be playing using headphones to overcome the crap live sound if buying the mini.

01. Is there any problems if the previous owner has already registered the amp, i.e. I'm not allowed to use or download from fuse?

02. If no problems as to above, then I'd like to create new clean sounds and save to the amp as a new preset. i.e. no need to be USB connected if possible.

03. How much space is allocated for saved effects; or do you overwrite the existing presets?

04. Any other general advice welcomed

Thank you for reading
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Post subject: Re: Buying second hand mustang amps already registered
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 8:35 pm
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Hello p,mc, welcome to the Forum. A good first question, we like questions and pic's too. I'm not familiar with the Mustangs but here is the link to that part of the Forum:
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Post subject: Re: Buying second hand mustang amps already registered
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 5:09 am
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p,mc wrote:
Hi all I'm thinking of getting my daughter a fender mustang mini or V2 III amp.
She is a learner, and will probably be playing using headphones to overcome the crap live sound if buying the mini.

01. Is there any problems if the previous owner has already registered the amp, i.e. I'm not allowed to use or download from fuse?

02. If no problems as to above, then I'd like to create new clean sounds and save to the amp as a new preset. i.e. no need to be USB connected if possible.

03. How much space is allocated for saved effects; or do you overwrite the existing presets?

04. Any other general advice welcomed

Thank you for reading
Paul


I'll try answer as best I can. First, if you have any indication your daughter is serious about this I'd go for the Mustang III over the Mini. The Mini is just too limited and the III can go wherever she wants to go with it, up to and including live gigging. But if you're thinking about getting a used one, make CERTAIN it's a Version 2 and not a Version 1. The difference is HUGE. Also make sure it comes with the two button footswitch as that is packaged with the amp.

As far as I know all that's needed to access Fuse is a userid and password and the type of amp. I know there are plenty of people that bought used gear that use Fuse. I'd strongly advise you to do a youtube search for "intheblues mustang". He's done a LOT of research and development on some great vintage tones using the Mustang and all are available through Fuse.

On the MIII the base amp models are the last several presets (85 through 99 I believe). You can start with those if you want, set them up however you want and save them to one of the lower presets. Preset 00 is the default preset at startup, so that's the best place for a good clean preset she can use to get started with. If you want a sparkling clean preset I'd start with one of the Twin Reverbs. If you want something warmer that you can get some crunch out of if you want, then start with maybe a Deluxe Reverb.

I'm not sure what you're asking as far as effects and presets, but there are a total of 100 available presets (00 through 99). Each preset has four available slots for effects: 1 stomp effect, 1 modulation effect, 1 reverb effect, and 1 delay effect. There are many more effects than slots and the limitation is you can only have one effect per slot...in other words you can't have two stomp effects. The effects and their state (on or off) are saved with the preset. Once a preset is loaded the individual effects can be turned on or off from the buttons on top of the amp or via a 4 button footswitch (sold separately).

Hopefully that's enough to get you started. If you have any other questions I'd advise you to visit the Mustang or Fuse section of these forums. Lots of very helpful folks there. Good luck to your daughter.

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Post subject: Re: Buying second hand mustang amps already registered
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:20 am
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I'll try answer as best I can. First, if you have any indication your daughter is serious about this I'd go for the Mustang III over the Mini. The Mini is just too limited and the III can go wherever she wants to go with it, up to and including live gigging.

But if just learning guitar, chances are she won't be gigging. The Mustang III is huge and heavy compared to the I/II/mini, and unless she's built like Vladimir Putin, it's not something she'll grab in one hand as she grabs the guitar in the other and move between rooms.

The Mustangs CAN be re-registered, but it requires cooperation from the original owner, and phone calls to Fender. I wouldn't bother.
My recommendation: Find out what kind of music she is likely to play, and get a practice amp that fits that. If she's likely to move around, make sure it's small and light enough that it won't become a chore. Performance ready amps can come later.


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Post subject: Re: Buying second hand mustang amps already registered
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:27 am
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Agree.... the MIII is big and powerful... not what I would get for someone just starting out. It's more than what is needed.
Go with a Mustang I amplifier. You can get one brand new for about $125 beans (less if the guitar store is having a sale!). Warranty and all included. Has the headphone jack... small... lightweight... has everything needed for a beginner to have a heck of a lot of fun with. And it's easier to use too!

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Post subject: Re: Buying second hand mustang amps already registered
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:51 am
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Just throwing in my observations on the Mini and the appropriateness of that amp for a beginning learner.

Having four nice amps already, I was attracted to the mini solely for it's battery powered portability. Even though I'm not currently busking anywhere, I wanted something that would sound great anywhere that battery powered music might break out.

While it may be true that the mini sounds less robust than it's larger family members, the fact is that it still sounds amazingly good.

For about two weeks after I got it, it's the amp that provided me with the most "fun". I used it almost exclusively during that period. I wasn't fiddling with hundreds of "settings". I was finding a tone and letting it inspire my playing in ways that my other amps haven't done in quite some time.

The mini has it's place in the Mustang lineup. It's not for everything, and it's not for every one. But, this thing punches above it's weight class all day long. It's a cheap thrill, and if a beginner finds it as inspiring as I do - then great things will happen for her (or him), and progress will be made.

Beginners don't need to be educated about what professional tools are all about. They need inspiration through great sound and feel, the convenience of immediate and hassle-free access to practice tools, and the support of a coach or mentor who can guide them down the right paths when the time is right for lessons, jamming, writing.... or whatever their future holds.


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Post subject: Re: Buying second hand mustang amps already registered
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 3:42 pm
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Thanks guys....Brilliant advice and links. I'd been doing some research and hit upon the buzz word V.2, Not yet sure why V.1 is not as desirable. Whether it's components, support or comparability with fuse!

I've been playing guitar & backing vocals (Washburn Tanglewood, Japanese model) for 30 years now, and been around the block a few times. My daughter (14) has just started an interest, so I got her a fender affinity, set up the arm, Rod adjust, action, bridge, intonation etc and was looking for a small amp. The mustang modelling amps seemed perfect due to it's many voices. Wouldn't mind but I've just recently sold a Roland JC120 I'd had for years. Also have a Peavey powered monitor that could have done the job too, without effects though.

But as usual you see the range and always want to go to the best. I love the mini for portability, and I suppose with headphones you get a great sound but not without, due to the limited EQ pots and speaker size.

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I think the Muzzy II (V.2) is a good compromise, with the larger 12" speaker and bass pot.
The Muzzy I (V.2) looks identical to above but with smaller speaker and wattage.
And the Muzzy III is best at present with better 12" speaker, mid and bass pot.

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Post subject: Re: Buying second hand mustang amps already registered
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 2:56 am
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You could probably get her a used Mustang I or better yet, buy her one of the new Champion series. IMO, I think those are much better than the Mustangs and less confusing as far as getting the sound that you want. I myself have been considering going for the Champion 100 model.


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