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Post subject: Pedals and FX Units versus software for use practise
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 11:33 am
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I travel a lot so cannot practise with an amp, with blue strat, maple neck, standard pickups and another back home - as above but black with rosewood

I have no pedals yet, only a POD MK1 and long floor board and a Tascam Guitar Trainer MKII as I am still a beginner. And yes the POD has stayed in the cupboard unused and now I am told there are super multi effects boxes from them OR other suppliers OR PC software OR I use standard pedals FXs but these are best only if going into an amp
So please can you give me your advice what to buy to improve sound as

1) I do not have the 25DB boost - how can I get this without mod to guitar
2) Get similar tone in headphones (please don't laugh) to songs by Clapton, Lang, Guy, Cray
To be specific, BAD LOVE, Chronicles, Clapton,

Current list is Dunlop Wah pedal and Screamer TS9 AND moog MF BOOST but told wont be good with headphones OR
BOSS ME25 but pedal seems smallish
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PC software but then effects pedal needed and this will cost more than the standard pedals WHAT TO DO ???? THANKS


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Post subject: Re: Pedals and FX Units versus software for use practise
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 11:49 am
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To set up patches for boost, make other patches with lower volume and the "boost" patches with "normal" volume. Increase the overall amp volume to compensate and when you engage the patches with normal volume, you'll effectively have boost.

As for the pedals, yes, gain pedals won't work good with SS or modelling technology because the extra gain can cause unpleasant clipping. That's why they are mainly (although not exclusively) used with tube amps.

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Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:11 pm
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audiotx wrote:
1) I do not have the 25DB boost - how can I get this without mod to guitar


You really can't boost a signal without a battery-powered preamp in the guitar.

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2) Get similar tone in headphones (please don't laugh) to songs by Clapton, Lang, Guy, Cray


I'd recommend you buy all the gear they use, replicate their muscles and nervous system and magically gain all their musical experience. Hell, it's easier than trying to make original music isn't it? Copying is FUN.

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Post subject: Re: Pedals and FX Units versus software for use practise
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:27 pm
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First, yes Frank is always like that, don't take it personal.
I'm not sure what your Pod Mk1 is, but if it's a pocket pod then I would think that's all you need. Plug your guitar into it, plug in a set of headphones to the output, plug in your music to the aux. input and your jamming with your heros.
I use an Ipod to plug my music into a multi fx unit, but your laptop would work just as well, or a portable cd player.
Working with software on your laptop is an option, but you would need an audio interface to get your guitar plugged into the laptop. Then you would have to get your music playing while you can hear your guitar, and I won't even try to explain the many ways that could be done. A multi fx unit or pocket pod would be easier in my opinion.

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Post subject: Re: Pedals and FX Units versus software for use practise
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:49 pm
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It is the 1997 Original POD
http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/ ... od-549862/

So way out of date and I missed the opportunity to get the LINE 6 chip upgrade
due to being away travelling

Thanks for the advice both of you. I was a recording engineer in studios so heard live the greats, even Hendrix when he was in the UK and of course English greats so understand the tech reasons why floor pedals, boosts wont work well with my set up - let alone issues of impedance matching - then yes as you hinted there may be latency issues of replay and or FX so it seems a hardware only solution is best


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Post subject: Re: Pedals and FX Units versus software for use practise
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 1:04 pm
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Hi audiotx, maybe signing up with line6 and visiting their Custom Tone downloads is your answer, type in pod type and artist, press search and away you go. I have one of those pod studio interface thingumyjigs, also download podfarm, hope you find something that suits.


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Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 1:13 pm
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Yes I have done this but was worried it would be a POD or LINE 6 focussed response
as tempted to leave the early pod in the cupboard!: But yes you are right it is worth pushing this along your suggested route THANKS


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Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 1:26 pm
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audiotx wrote:


I would just start with the POD that you have. You'd be surprised what you can get out of a cheap unit if you get good at tweaking all the parameters.

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Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 1:43 pm
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audiotx wrote:
Yes I have done this but was worried it would be a POD or LINE 6 focussed response
as tempted to leave the early pod in the cupboard!: But yes you are right it is worth pushing this along your suggested route THANKS

Your welcome," no outlay = no brainer" look for the free upgrade to podfarm 2, been awhile since I used it, but was impressed with the extras it provided.


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Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 4:55 pm
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Maybe a Rockman would help you?

http://www.premierguitar.com/articles/2 ... of-rockman

Tom sold the company to Dunlop - not sure what they've done with these.

Or find a vintage one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Rockman-Tom ... 0854598989

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Post subject: Re: Pedals and FX Units versus software for use practise
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 5:49 pm
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If it's for mobile practice and you have a laptop with you anyway you can do a lot with software. You can get an interface in the form of a cable so no bulky interface, or better yet perhaps the Amplitube Stomp IO (I think it's called) so you can use that as your interface and wah controller. You can get your practice setup very small and very powerful with the PC now. Just make sure to check out the free software first so you don't spend any more than needed. OR demo stuff first (software) kinda hard to download demo versions of the hardware. Guitar Rig has a looper and two tape decks (for mp3's whatever) plus tons of effects and you might find a used "Foot Kontroller" or whatever NI called it. That would have midi controls for any effects and wah plus work as your IO. I have been waiting for the software to go on sale, I heard they run $99 sale price on it now and then. Of course, there are many ways to set up a good practice rig. I get the idea that you want to control your wah with your foot and not an auto wah?

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