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Post subject: Any man of steel here?
Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 11:05 am
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I have long wanted to buy a lap steel guitar, to play without a slide (also called dulcimer style).
Do any of the esteemed patrons of this establishment have any experience with steel guitars, and in particular finger fretting?

It's not like I can just go to GC and try out a dozen to find out what works best - it's going to have to be an order, with extra hassle and costs of return. Thus research.
Any good pointers? Things to be aware of? Reasonable pricing?


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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 1:40 pm
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I'm very tempted by the Peavey Powerslide. If it's good enough for Scott Grove then it can't be bad.



EDIT: just noticed you mentioned fretting, not sure that'd work on the Peavey!

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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 2:29 pm
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Too many strings on that thang!
For a purist blues approach you need one o' these

http://www.pmtonline.co.uk/nineboys-wed ... y-bow.html


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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:47 pm
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GilgaFrank wrote:
EDIT: just noticed you mentioned fretting, not sure that'd work on the Peavey!

It might, with a lower nut - I know that those with a rail down the middle between the 3rd and 4th string will not, and neither will those with too shallow (or painted) frets. Most players use a steel, so that's where all the focus is. But I am more interested in this playing style (skip to 2:18 for an electric lap guitar instead of dulcimer):



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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:28 pm
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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 11:49 pm
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There are companies that make several types of dulcimer kits but I don't have a link,no doubt a google search would get you pointed in the right direction.

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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 12:21 am
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Good question arth1, happy shopping. Cool video Mike. 8)

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Post subject: Re: Any man of steel here?
Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 2:20 am
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arth1, Have you heard of Letritia Kandle? she was the original "woman of steel".
With the help of her entrepreneur father, in 1937 she pioneered the first multi-neck steel console guitar. She named it the "Grand Letar". It featured an amplifier with twin speakers and built-in moving light show and illuminated fret board.
An amazing woman. You may find her story interesting.

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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 4:58 am
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Letritia Kandle!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dAI1sFMWJQs/T ... RECENT.jpg

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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 8:33 pm
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boxbang wrote:
arth1, Have you heard of Letritia Kandle? she was the original "woman of steel".
With the help of her entrepreneur father, in 1937 she pioneered the first multi-neck steel console guitar. She named it the "Grand Letar". It featured an amplifier with twin speakers and built-in moving light show and illuminated fret board.
An amazing woman. You may find her story interesting.

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http://www.vintageguitar.com/7684/7684/

Goodonya ...Mark.

Edit- spelling.


What a dame! Yes, that is interesting! (And I bet that amp grille quickly got changed after Pearl Harbor!)
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Post subject: Re: Any man of steel here?
Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 8:50 pm
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[quote="arth1"
What a dame! Yes, that is interesting! (And I bet that amp grille quickly got changed after Pearl Harbor!)
Thanks![/quote]

Yes, I like the art deco sunset, but understandably, it was changed to this-

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It's actually a glass panel. I'm not sure where speaker grille is.


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Post subject: Re: Any man of steel here?
Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 11:10 pm
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I am pretty ignorant here :oops: I've read randomly about dulcimers , or rather bumped into the word (and I once had a synth with a preset called dulcimer :) ) So I know very little about it.

After watching the video , I can't see why you just can't use a normal electric across your knees and play it Jeff Healy-style ? On the other hand - why would anyone want to ''convert'' to that style ?

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Post subject: Re: Any man of steel here?
Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 12:29 am
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After watching the video , I can't see why you just can't use a normal electric across your knees and play it Jeff Healy-style ? On the other hand - why would anyone want to ''convert'' to that style ?

A regular electric guitar has a heavy body and light neck. It doesn't easily stay in place, like a lap steel does.
Also, the scale is too long. Jeff Healey was unique.

Why try? Because it's different, and you can do different things.
Hammering, tapping and trilling become easier, while bending and pull-offs become harder.
Also, the reach is bigger when you don't have to curve your hand, and you can use your thumb better. Try a 7-7-0-0-0-1 chord (G7add6/B). Kind of hard to do, unless you play dulcimer style or your name is John Petrucci.


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Post subject: Re: Any man of steel here?
Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 2:55 am
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Thank you for the clarification. Sounds logical as explained.
After trying that playing style for a couple of minutes (on an acoustic), I found out this was not my piece of cake.

Further into my ignorance I was wondering- are there any lap steels for sale with frets ? I have a lap steel - and that has just got markers on the ''fret''board

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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 5:18 am
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Miami Mike wrote:

Yep. Interesting article that was. Betcha can't hold a Kandle to her playing steel guitar. :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:

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