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Post subject: Re: New Pink Floyd album!!
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 8:09 am
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Some people have been asking Laurie, my wife, about a new album I have coming out in November. Errhh? I don’t have an album coming out, they are probably confused. David Gilmour and Nick Mason have an album coming out. It’s called 'Endless River'. David and Nick constitute the group Pink Floyd. I on the other hand, am not part of Pink Floyd. I left Pink Floyd in 1985, that’s 29 years ago. I had nothing to do with either of the Pink Floyd studio albums, 'Momentary Lapse Of Reason' and 'The Division Bell', nor the Pink Floyd tours of 1987 and 1994, and I have nothing to do with Endless River. Phew! This is not rocket science people, get a grip.

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Post subject: Re: New Pink Floyd album!!
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 2:30 pm
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I always thought there was something missing in Pink Floyd. I know about Syd Barret in all. Maybe Dave Gilmour vocally doesn't have quite the presence that he has on guitar, except on Hey, You. Maybe the lyrics weren't.... up to Beatlesesque snuff. Everybody talks about the art, eh ye mm hmm. I dunno? :wink:


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Post subject: Re: New Pink Floyd album!!
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:11 pm
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John Cleese once said he'd spent three years doing Monty Python then the rest of his life talking about it. I don't think there's many Roger Waters interviews where he hasn't been described as "former Pink Floyd frontman".

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Post subject: Re: New Pink Floyd album!!
Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2014 5:50 pm
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I'm really liking it so far! It explores some familiar sounding musical themes, but finds a lot of new ground as well. Dave sure loves his Digitech Whammy pedal!


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Post subject: Re: New Pink Floyd album!!
Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2014 6:04 pm
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I don't understand all the excitement about this.

A "new", but recycled Pink Floyd album is like the old joke about pizza and sex...it's never bad

Exactly. A pink Floyd album made out of recorded sessions that didn't make it in the past (Division Bell) is still better music than the crap playing on the radio today.

Listened to it yesterday and it's mostly instrumental but definitely Pink Floyd. I enjoyed it.

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Post subject: Re: New Pink Floyd album!!
Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2014 6:09 pm
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I thought it was totally forgettable, a sad way to end the pinky floyd story imo. No part of the album had me engaged, or tapping my feet, or intently listening. It was mediocre background music that if I didn't know was pink floyd wouldn't have been given the benefit of the doubt after the first side.

I've got a friend who is die-hard floyd fan and he loves it and how it relates to previous albums. I get that. I'm a floyd fan to the point where I can enjoy all but the barret era stuff, and I really rate division bell. But if I don't ever hear this 'new' album again, I won't be too fussed.


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Post subject: Re: New Pink Floyd album!!
Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2014 6:10 pm
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Pink Floyd tours of 1987 and 1994
Actually Mr. Waters...I believe it was 88' and 94'...and I was at both (UNI Dome in Cedar Falls, IA. summer 1988) (Jack Trice Stadium in Ames, IA. summer 1994). And you Mr. Waters WERE at them as well. Ohhhh, not in person....but you were canoeing down a stream with pot plants smothering both banks, on the big round screen on the back of the stage.

Of course, I may have been a little too comfortably numb, and someone else may have been piloting that canoe....but it sure looked like you to me. :wink:

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Post subject: Re: New Pink Floyd album!!
Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2014 7:35 pm
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Roger Waters still has my attention as a musician (Final Cut notwithstanding) but he lost my respect as a person years ago.
When he left the band in a hissy fit, fully intending to hold all the other members hostage he behaved like a child and he got nothing from me but ire for his troubles. I felt no empathy for him at all. By all accounts of the day, he had always been the troublemaker of the four anyway, many times purposely trying to get under Dave's skin. Dave was no saint in that dynamic either but at least he didn't start the trouble. He stood his ground and bullishly refused to let Waters use temper tantrums to force his will onto the others. When Waters took the band to court, suing for the rights to the Pink Floyd name and lost due to the fact it had been his choice to leave the band and not theirs to have him leave, I did fist pumps. It was almost as if the judge was saying, "There. Put that in your pipe and smoke it, shithead." I still followed his music because, well, because he's Roger Waters but I tuned him out whenever he spoke. I felt he'd lost the right to speak to me. No pun intended.

Anyway, that's my perspective on the matter of Pink Floyd and Roger Waters.

On the subject of revisiting past rejects, I don't see the harm so long as they're adding something fresh to the old takes, which apparently they are doing. There's no sin in going back to a piece of work that wasn't good enough then and trying to alter it to make it good enough now. That happens every moment of every day in areas like industry or science. Sometimes it's even a travesty when work is rejected. Nikola Tesla comes to mind.

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Post subject: Re: New Pink Floyd album!!
Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2014 10:03 pm
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Sometimes it's even a travesty when work is rejected. Nikola Tesla comes to mind.

What I see as a travesty is that someone else now capitalizes on the fame and recognition of Tesla's name to sell cars. What will we see in another few years? Hubble sunglasses? Schroedinger pet food? Einstein dice?


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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2014 10:33 pm
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Post subject: Re: New Pink Floyd album!!
Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:46 pm
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BMW-KTM wrote:
Roger Waters still has my attention as a musician (Final Cut notwithstanding) but he lost my respect as a person years ago.
When he left the band in a hissy fit, fully intending to hold all the other members hostage he behaved like a child and he got nothing from me but ire for his troubles. I felt no empathy for him at all. By all accounts of the day, he had always been the troublemaker of the four anyway, many times purposely trying to get under Dave's skin. Dave was no saint in that dynamic either but at least he didn't start the trouble. He stood his ground and bullishly refused to let Waters use temper tantrums to force his will onto the others. When Waters took the band to court, suing for the rights to the Pink Floyd name and lost due to the fact it had been his choice to leave the band and not theirs to have him leave, I did fist pumps. It was almost as if the judge was saying, "There. Put that in your pipe and smoke it, shithead." I still followed his music because, well, because he's Roger Waters but I tuned him out whenever he spoke. I felt he'd lost the right to speak to me. No pun intended.

Anyway, that's my perspective on the matter of Pink Floyd and Roger Waters.

On the subject of revisiting past rejects, I don't see the harm so long as they're adding something fresh to the old takes, which apparently they are doing. There's no sin in going back to a piece of work that wasn't good enough then and trying to alter it to make it good enough now. That happens every moment of every day in areas like industry or science. Sometimes it's even a travesty when work is rejected. Nikola Tesla comes to mind.



There have been some signs they might have finally gotten over their old grudges. I like what Waters has done and how he tries to fight, in his own way, systems repressing human rights and stuff like that. I also love the meaning behind a lot of the songs he wrote. I definitely don't like how he behaved when he quit Pink Floyd. But I don't think he is a bad person due to it. It was a huge mistake (and well, it wasn't just one), but still..
I also think songs like Poles Apart and Lost for Words on Division Bell are Gilmour's views (even though his wife helped write the lyrics) on the whole thing and how he feels about Roger.
"So I open my door to my enemies
And I ask could we wipe the slate clean
But they tell me to please go f**k myself
You know you just can't win."

I think 'enemies' are Waters and his spats. That song left me feeling Dave tried to bury the hatchet with Waters back in the 90s, but Waters was still being too much of an ego-maniac at the time.

I really did hope Waters would be present, especially after the Live Aid and due to Wright's passing and due to Dave and Nick joining him in O2 on his tour.. But sadly, Waters doesn't want it.. Louder Than Words is, though, definitely a song speaking about their relationships and possibly also another call (even though it's supposed to be their last album) to forget what happened 30 years ago, if not for anything else, for Rick.

I gotta say I like the album. I wish there were more songs with vocals, but it'll definitely be the soundtrack to whenever I have to study.

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Post subject: Re: New Pink Floyd album!!
Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 2:20 pm
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Waters is just an egomaniac child and a commie. There, I said it. :lol:

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Post subject: Re: New Pink Floyd album!!
Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 11:34 pm
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I really hated it when Tom Edison ripped off Tesla for Alternating current. That just pissed me off to no end. After that when Edison would talk about stuff... I just would tune him out.. the bastard.


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Post subject: Re: New Pink Floyd album!!
Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 1:35 am
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Putting aside the fact you cannot possibly be old enough, Thomas Edison's light bulb ran on direct current (DC), not alternating current (AC). In fact he was vehemently opposed to the use of alternating current and spoke out publicly against it. He went to a science fair in France and did a public demonstration and killed a dog using AC to show people how dangerous it was. It was George Westinghouse who took Tesla's work and made a fortune with it.

If you're going to attempt to make snide remarks or innuendos you should at least do a little homework. You have not insulted me. You have insulted yourself.

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Post subject: Re: New Pink Floyd album!!
Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 6:29 am
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I like some of the new album, but a lot of it I just
can't get into. Maybe it takes time?

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