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Post subject: A relic job gone bad.....
Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 4:22 pm
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You have to see this, I must admit the price is right.

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Post subject: Re: A relic job gone bad.....
Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 5:22 pm
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Shame, cort made Fenders are my favorite foreign models.

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Post subject: Re: A relic job gone bad.....
Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 7:09 pm
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Another "relic artist" trying to dump his mistake.


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Post subject: Re: A relic job gone bad.....
Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 7:43 pm
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I'm surprized that he's not trying to pass it off as a newly discovered Hendrix Strat. BTW regarding Cort.Cort was taken to court for serious human rights violations in their Korean factory-which they have since shut down and moved house to China.Cort executives and many managers were found guilty of paying wages well below the national set minimum wage,imtimidation,blackmail and physical and even sexual abuse and assault.A few years ago there was a huge protest started by ex-factory workers and most of the famous product endorsees at that year's NAMM show,they demanded that U.S. guitar makers who had entered into guitar fabrication agreements with Cort,meet with them,Fender was the only company who sat with them and heard them out.

At the time there was considerable fuss on the web about it and an international Boycott of Cort products was called for.I used to know the Cort worker's web address by heart but I can't remember it now for the life of me.I remember it was a play on words interchanging Cort and court but I imagine if you were to Google Cort labour disputes you should be able to find all the info.

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Post subject: Re: A relic job gone bad.....
Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:25 pm
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Interesting history. I recently traded my 92 Cort made Stratocaster for a Charvel mutt. I love the feeling. So easy to play. 86 model 3 body, 90ish CX neck.

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Post subject: Re: A relic job gone bad.....
Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 10:57 pm
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Wow, that's really bad about Cort. The corruption that goes on throughout Asia (especially regarding the fair treatment and payment of workers) is really bad in some places. I bet if there were proper and more reliable media sources in those countries we'd hear about a great deal more horror stories attached to the everyday products we all use. There seems to be a kind of "ignorance is bliss" attitude towards the media doing any proper reporting about the same products they advertise in their pages...mmm, conflict of interest for them you see...!
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Post subject: Re: A relic job gone bad.....
Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 1:45 am
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I'm surprized that he's not trying to pass it off as a newly discovered Hendrix Strat. BTW regarding Cort.Cort was taken to court for serious human rights violations in their Korean factory-which they have since shut down and moved house to China.Cort executives and many managers were found guilty of paying wages well below the national set minimum wage,imtimidation,blackmail and physical and even sexual abuse and assault.A few years ago there was a huge protest started by ex-factory workers and most of the famous product endorsees at that year's NAMM show,they demanded that U.S. guitar makers who had entered into guitar fabrication agreements with Cort,meet with them,Fender was the only company who sat with them and heard them out.

At the time there was considerable fuss on the web about it and an international Boycott of Cort products was called for.I used to know the Cort worker's web address by heart but I can't remember it now for the life of me.I remember it was a play on words interchanging Cort and court but I imagine if you were to Google Cort labour disputes you should be able to find all the info.


OK that is not quite the way I heard it. Cor-Tek/Cort workers at their Korean plants began unionization efforts in the early 90's. This prompted Cor-Tek to begin looking into opening plants outside South Korea and they first moved into Indonesia around 1992 and continuously expanded the Indonesian plant moving more work there while reducing the work force in South Korea where workers actually earned the most money. The union struck Cor-Tek/Cort Korea first in 2005 and again in 2006. As a result of the 2006 strike Cor-Tek/Cort closed the Korea plant in 2007 leaving the South Korean manufacturing workers unemployed. Cor-Tek moved into China immediately after closing the South Korean manufacturing operation.

I can find legitimate references to labor rights violations, namely closing the plant in the midst of the strike which you can't do in South Korea, along with dodging workers’ compensation cases by pressuring injured workers to sign resignation papers and not appearing when called for an investigation by the National Assembly in Seoul. Cor-Tek/Cort paid their fine for the violation. The other charges you list have never actually been proven in court, nor have they been fined for them.

If during union negotiations or an actual strike a manufacturer in the USA closes a plant in the USA and moves the jobs to South America nobody takes that company to court. But labor laws in South Korea are different and you can't do that there without getting fined. I know this for a fact because it happens all the time.

Stupid question of the day. If Cor-Tek/Cort South Korea was such an awful place to work, then why did the "former workers" there try to force Cor-Tek CEO Yung-ho Park to reopen the South Korean plants and hire them back for the same awful jobs they were so disgruntled about when they actually had the jobs in the first place? Who is paying for their airfares to fly to NAMM? Who pays for their websites and PR machine?

I'm no fan of Yung-ho Park. However the other co-founder of Cor-Tek/Cort is one of my guitar biz heroes named Jack Westheimer. Mr. Westheimer sold out his interest in Cor-Tek to Yun-ho Park a long time ago. Jack Westheimer is the person who pioneered the global guitar business and he did starting in the 1960's. He's a visionary businessman with amazing intuition and was never one to let grass grow under his feet. If it wasn't for him the guitar world would be very different indeed.


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Post subject: Re: A relic job gone bad.....
Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:26 pm
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Great response brotherdave, thanks for posting. The unions destroyed the business environment in the USA and have left government/taxpayers with the billions in union pension losses promised to their members. Glad that Cort bailed before being bled dry by organizers/bosses from unions. Westheimer/Mighty Mite is a very good company with good products and friendly customer service.

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Post subject: Re: A relic job gone bad.....
Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 9:00 pm
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I'm just going by the information that I had garnered from the site that was formed in support of the Cort workers when all of this mess was at its worst.The workers attempted to unionize because they were habitually harassed and threatened and paid below the state enforced minimum wage because management knew full well that with the high rate of poverty in the area,for every person who had a job,there were 10 more willing to take it even if the pay was illegally below the minimum wage set by government. I wish I could find the site that I got this info from as at the time there was quite an international kerfuffle over it and some of the information was startling and confirmed to be accurate and true.


Although I'd be the first to agree that some unions have way too much power and have gotten way too greedy and dare I say criminally influenced,unions were first conceived out of necessity in order for workers to be spared ill treatment and being paid barely subsistence wages by despotic employers.People must also bear in mind that it was down to unionized workers that paid vacations,sick leave,bereavement leave,unemployment insurance,worker group insurance benefits,Medical and dental insurance benefits and many other "perks" that are generally accepted and expected from almost all employers these days.

It's absolutely true that all too powerful and greedy,corrupt unions have done immense economic damage to governments and corporations but then again unions that are there solely for the benefit of the workers and who are not self serving and take a strong adversarial approach to the employer,can lend to a work place where employee and employer can work together harmoniously with mutual respect for each other.

Edit: I was unable to find the original site that I garnered the initial info from however these sites should provide some interesting reading and watching.
http://www.cortaction.wordpress.com/about
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlzXFuFOz_0
http://www.cortaction.wordpress.com/tag/cort-guitars

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