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Post subject: Re: U2 and Apple
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 11:58 am
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Radiohead. Once they ditched guitars and songs and went for 'sonic palettes' they turned into pretentious wankers. OK Computer and Bends are still two of my best albums of the last 20 years.


I disagree, I think Radiohead (Thom Yorke in particular) where a very talented band. Yorke's new band Atoms For Peace seems to show the maturation of his music. :wink:


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Post subject: Re: U2 and Apple
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:42 pm
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All about making the money why else be a professional in the industry. Play music yourself for enjoyment or get good enough and famous to make the cash. No problem with anyone gong for the cash.

Also I like my Apple products!

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Post subject: Re: U2 and Apple
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 8:36 pm
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I lost interest in U-2 after Joshua Tree and Rattle and Hum-their music just lost its appeal to me and started to sound the same so whether they give away their new album or even pay people to buy it,I won't be downloading it.With regard to Radiohead I loved Tupelo Honey and Bends and some cuts on OK Computer but Kid A and beyond that were just too "out there" for my tastes.I do however like Thom Yorke's solo efforts.

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Post subject: Re: U2 and Apple
Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 5:23 pm
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Ceri wrote:
I've a feeling that people who are acting all annoyed at being given some music for free are people who have never once in their entire lives had something real to worry about.m


I've worked in the mobile telco industry for the last 8 years and I can say that I've seen a lot of change- not only on the products & technology but also the change they have had on people's social behaviour.

When I look back from 2005 to today, to be quite frank with the changes I've seen I'm rather disgusted at how people interact with each other today. I'm even more horrified when I see they behaviour of people when their phone stops working -"you must help me- my entire life is on that phone..." Lol really?! I mean, people used to interact on a personal level- even phone calls- if you will call that personal interaction. There is a new generation of people in schools today who will live and die by the mobile device, be it a smartphone or a tablet and these people will not have as much social interaction that we have been exposed to. If there's a problem that won't be solved by an app or google, they will be screwed. Say goodbye to the working man who has a trade in the next 50 years.

What scares me is that it's all come about in such a short space of time.

Show a 5 year old kid who lives in the city these objects: a mobile flip phone, an ordinary old fashioned telephone from the 70-s or 80's, a calculator, and a Walkman. Even try a cassette tape or a compact disc or VHS machine. I will lay money on the table that they will not know what these objects are. Try it. Post a video and I promise I'll eat a hot chilli for any of the above objects that will be identified by someone of that age group without prior knowledge. Ill video it.

If you would've showed that same kid these objects 10 years ago, they would know every single one. Doesn't that say something.

Top headlines in my news yesterday- terrorists, elections but the second biggest news story- iOS 8. What the hell is this world coming to? :|

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Post subject: Re: U2 and Apple
Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 5:54 pm
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I didn't really feel one way or another about it until U2 came out and declared they were "punk" for doing this. Now... of the many good and bad things you can say about U2 the phrase punk has nothing to do with them unless you are saying "hey, you know who ISN'T punk? U2"


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Post subject: Re: U2 and Apple
Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 6:24 pm
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Drubbing wrote:
What selling of music isn't some sort of stunt? It's marketing. No matter how you feel about either party, they do it a hell of a lot better than most.

U2 could have just sold their record and probably made more money from it. But they don't really need any more. What they want is to reach more people than they ever have before. The marketing of U2 is worth more to them these days.

I much preferred their music when it was young and angry and maturing. Now it's matured, it's kind of bland.


Totally agree with you mate. They are well beyond having to churn out Top 40 songs just for money. Which to me kind of makes these claims that it's all just a stunt kind of lame. I mean, these people are very driven people to begin with. Just like other big artists like Paul McCartney, The Stones, Pink Floyd, Springsteen, Bob Dylan etc, they all could've just sat back and lived off royalties a hell of a long time ago. Because of their personalities though they are naturally motivated by their own desires that music gives them. Not motivated by money or the desire to be famous. A huge fault a lot of people make is to equate their success with how much money they are worth when really, for me anyway, success is a personal thing you feel about yourself, not what everybody else thinks. I'm sure that these superstars (like who I mentioned earlier) don't sit around dwelling on review columns and lifestyle magazines and plot ways of gaining more publicity. At the level U2 have reached I think they are giving this album away mainly and simply because they can. I can understand where the skeptics are coming from in the sense that "There's no such thing as a free lunch" or "If it's too good to be true it usually is" but does everyone always have to jump to the first negative conclusion they can think of?!
Also, with torrents and sites like piratebay out there everyone can pretty much already get any album they want for free anyway! The fact though that there are still a great deal of CD's being bought (and even an increase recently in vinyl sales) shows that the majority of listeners and fans do support their favourite artists without being forced to.
When I think about how technology is changing things, I can see a future where most of the money will be made through live shows and performances anyway. As illegal downloading becomes more and more rampant and eventually un-policable (is there such a word?!!) mixed with the rise in sales of home recording technology plus social media sites like soundcloud.com, listeners will eventually have such a huge choice of constantly new music for free that the music industry as we know it will change drastically. True talent and candy to your ears will be more popular than someone who relies on clever marketing and makes the most expensive video clips! That's just what I think anyway!
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Post subject: Re: U2 and Apple
Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:03 pm
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JimRussellMills30! wrote:
Drubbing wrote:
Radiohead. Once they ditched guitars and songs and went for 'sonic palettes' they turned into pretentious wankers. OK Computer and Bends are still two of my best albums of the last 20 years.


I disagree, I think Radiohead (Thom Yorke in particular) where a very talented band. Yorke's new band Atoms For Peace seems to show the maturation of his music. :wink:


If you add an "s" and a "b" to that word, I think it would be more accurate.

In my opinion, he's not even in the same league as other "sound canvas" artists like F.S.O.L., and floats only on the name of Radiohead.


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Post subject: Re: U2 and Apple
Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 11:06 am
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I never really cared for U2 or Bono really. I always thought Bono was a major arrogant DB. I think its hilarious the reaction this is getting from certain "communities" and I also think its hilarious how many people have no idea who U2 is. :lol:


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Post subject: Re: U2 and Apple
Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 12:00 pm
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If you add an "s" and a "b" to that word, I think it would be more accurate.

I can't decide whether to post "LOL" or "+1".
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Post subject: Re: U2 and Apple
Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 8:41 am
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I am proud to own absolutely no Apple products. I don't have iTunes installed, I don't have Quicktime installed. The entire corporation has never received any money from me and they never will.


Join the club. I also do not own a I-Pad or any of those modern gadgets that kids use to listen to music today with their headphones. I'm a old fart who just happens to love using a boombox with CD's where I can actually enjoy the music loud. To hell with all of this downloading crap. U2 is a joke anyway , especially Bono with his holier than thou crap.


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Post subject: Re: U2 and Apple
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 5:51 pm
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Blinkers wrote:
GilgaFrank wrote:
I am proud to own absolutely no Apple products. I don't have iTunes installed, I don't have Quicktime installed. The entire corporation has never received any money from me and they never will.


Same here....


Me too! I don't even know exactly why I feel the way I do.


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Post subject: Re: U2 and Apple
Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 12:40 pm
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Same here - not a single Apple product (except Beatles records, which is a different Apple).

I don't accept walled gardens and lock-ins. If Fender makes something that only works with a single vendor's products, I won't buy the Fender product, no matter who that vendor is, or how brilliant the product might be.

I used iTunes once upon a time. But when it suddenly and clandestinely installed QuickTime without even telling me, taking over playing of video files, it (and QuickTime) went straight out.

For playing music, I prefer foobar2000 with asio support. That way I can also use a flac/aiff/vmw as the source into my mixer without starting up a DAW, and without Windows system dings making it into the mix. And it doesn't decide to call the mothership for upgrades or "free" downloads and cause timeouts at the most inopportune moments.


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Post subject: Re: U2 and Apple
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 12:01 pm
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arth1 wrote:
JimRussellMills30! wrote:
Drubbing wrote:
Radiohead. Once they ditched guitars and songs and went for 'sonic palettes' they turned into pretentious wankers. OK Computer and Bends are still two of my best albums of the last 20 years.


I disagree, I think Radiohead (Thom Yorke in particular) where a very talented band. Yorke's new band Atoms For Peace seems to show the maturation of his music. :wink:


If you add an "s" and a "b" to that word, I think it would be more accurate.

In my opinion, he's not even in the same league as other "sound canvas" artists like F.S.O.L., and floats only on the name of Radiohead.


Sounds like you have some sort of vendetta against all things Radiohead. Is it political or maybe religious? :?


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Post subject: Re: U2 and Apple
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 12:30 pm
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JimRussellMills30! wrote:
Sounds like you have some sort of vendetta against all things Radiohead. Is it political or maybe religious? :?


Huh? Why would you think that a negative comment about a someone best known for X is a "sort of vendetta against all things X"?

I have no idea what the politics of Radiohead are, and I haven't suffered from religion in decades, so I certainly don't have a religious agenda.


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Post subject: Re: U2 and Apple
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 12:43 pm
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arth1 wrote:
JimRussellMills30! wrote:
Sounds like you have some sort of vendetta against all things Radiohead. Is it political or maybe religious? :?


Huh? Why would you think that a negative comment about a someone best known for X is a "sort of vendetta against all things X"?

I have no idea what the politics of Radiohead are, and I haven't suffered from religion in decades, so I certainly don't have a religious agenda.


It's probably a subconscious impairment on your part. :wink:


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