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Post subject: Re: The American Standard, Now With a Channel-Bound Fingerbo
Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 11:39 am
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Yep, but they not offer channel-bound basses in addition to guitars! :twisted:

I've opened a poll on that subject with the hope Fender listening their clientele and add a channel-bound bass guitar in their line of MIA instruments.



Yeah, a poll no one has voted on that has "yes" and "no" as the only options but you're allowed to pick two options. You should do polls professionally.

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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 12:34 pm
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This thread is about Am Std Strats anyway.

Besides, bass players should just pound on the low E and stay in the background.....maybe they can be allowed to sing backing vocals occasionally, if they aren't too loud. Other than that, they should be silent, and they don't need anything fancy on which to play. Take a lesson from the bass player for Judas Priest. :wink:



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Post subject: Re: The American Standard, Now With a Channel-Bound Fingerbo
Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 3:52 pm
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This thread is about Am Std Strats anyway.

Besides, bass players should just pound on the low E and stay in the background.....maybe they can be allowed to sing backing vocals occasionally, if they aren't too loud. Other than that, they should be silent, and they don't need anything fancy on which to play. Take a lesson from the bass player for Judas Priest. :wink:


Or even the bass players of The White Stripes and The Black Keys. Great guys.

Yes, I get that some want more vintage basses. But every thread isn't suitable for lamenting the lack thereof.


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Post subject: Re: The American Standard, Now With a Channel-Bound Fingerbo
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 5:18 am
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So, back to the matter at hand. Channel bound boards. Has anyone played one? How do they play? Where is the clamouring for this feature been? I don't dip into the guitar sections much. So maybe it's the next "big" thing there. Does this basically make the guitar play like it has a bound neck, but with using the neck wood as the binding instead of the normal material?

As I said, maybe I've just missed all the hubbub about this all over the internet, but it seems like an "odd" feature to roll out into an American Standard. I would think perhaps the American Deluxe would have been a better proving ground as people there seem to be more open to early adopting of new technologies and features.

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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 8:42 am
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I was a little wary of compound radius boards until I tried one on the American Deluxe. I ended up buying the guitar on the spot, and it's my main guitar now.

I like that Fender is trying new things, trying old things, producing everything from vintage to hybrid to modern. I'll certainly give the channel-bound neck a try at the store. It costs me nothing and will be fun.

I guess I can see the point that there aren't enough vintage-style guitars floating around in shops and maybe the modern guitars cannibalize some of that display space. One can only hope that the marketers know what they are doing. Maybe vintage-spec buyers are known to be fussy and less likely to buy something off the shelf.


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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 5:04 am
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I guess you can't make everyone happy with new twists on design, however, I think it looks really good.... As far as wear on the wood, if we are playing right and the action is perfect, there shouldn't be any wear on the wood, just the frets....

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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 5:41 am
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This may be a minor point, but I just noticed that this version of the American Standard Strat only has 21 frets. So in exchange for one fret less, you get the glorious benefits of a channel bound fingerboard?


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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 6:38 am
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This may be a minor point, but I just noticed that this version of the American Standard Strat only has 21 frets. So in exchange for one fret less, you get the glorious benefits of a channel bound fingerboard?


Losing the 22nd fret is a bad thing if you play a lot of lead in D or G. But not all do. Giving it up for a neck you can't replace because Fender doesn't provide non-standard replacement necks, and one that luthiers might be hesitant to work on is, IMO, worse.

This seems like planned obsolescence, making buyers buy a completely new guitar down the road by reducing the ability to maintain and repair.


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Post subject: Re: The American Standard, Now With a Channel-Bound Fingerbo
Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 10:23 am
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Not having played a guitar with a channel-bound neck, I can not say anything good or bad about it. But I feel that in this particular case; the loss of the extra fret and the earlier adaptation of "vintage" style saddles make the American Standard Strat a little less American Standard. These are (in my mind) the modern interpretation of the Stratocaster. If it's not to your tastes, then Fender has several other alternatives available.


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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 12:06 am
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The American Standards are now offered with a pair of vintage twin head humbuckers, available in 4 cool finishes: black & 3-colour sunburst (RW), olympic white & ocean blue metallic (MN).

In a design twist the controls on the Strat are reversed: instead of a master volume and two tones you get the Jazz bass layout of two volumes and a master tone.
Unfortunately the guitar lacks off coil tap and split options from the humbuckers.


Ocean Blue and Bordeaux Red are the newest colour additions in the Fender colour chart for the rest of the series.


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Post subject: Re: The American Standard, Now With a Channel-Bound Fingerbo
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 4:37 am
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TheKingofPain wrote:
but it seems like an "odd" feature to roll out into an American Standard. I would think perhaps the American Deluxe would have been a better proving ground as people there seem to be more open to early adopting of new technologies and features.


The Channel bound neck was introduced about a year ago on the Fender Select line which is a step above the American Deluxe. By offering it on a American Standard it makes be think that one of two thing are going on. 1. The necks are not that popular and they are putting them on the lower priced American Standard to try to move them out, or 2. They are popular and are spreading them around. The standard neck is still avilable, this is a option not a replacement, so we get more choices which is great, unless you are one of those people that think more choices just confuse people and someone should limit choices in order to help everyone make the "right" choice.

I like the way they look and I am interested in playing one before I pass judgement.

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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 5:52 am
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The Channel bound neck was introduced about a year ago on the Fender Select line which is a step above the American Deluxe. By offering it on a American Standard it makes be think that one of two thing are going on. 1. The necks are not that popular and they are putting them on the lower priced American Standard to try to move them out, or 2. They are popular and are spreading them around.

3. The Select line was the baby of the old CEO (from what I've read, it was), and new management doesn't want to continue it. Now they're left over with a bunch of necks...


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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 5:59 am
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omar59 wrote:
The Channel bound neck was introduced about a year ago on the Fender Select line which is a step above the American Deluxe. By offering it on a American Standard it makes be think that one of two thing are going on. 1. The necks are not that popular and they are putting them on the lower priced American Standard to try to move them out, or 2. They are popular and are spreading them around.

3. The Select line was the baby of the old CEO (from what I've read, it was), and new management doesn't want to continue it. Now they're left over with a bunch of necks...



So the new American Standard is... leftovers. :shock:

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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 6:24 am
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TheKingofPain wrote:
but it seems like an "odd" feature to roll out into an American Standard. I would think perhaps the American Deluxe would have been a better proving ground as people there seem to be more open to early adopting of new technologies and features.


The Channel bound neck was introduced about a year ago on the Fender Select line which is a step above the American Deluxe. By offering it on a American Standard it makes be think that one of two thing are going on. 1. The necks are not that popular and they are putting them on the lower priced American Standard to try to move them out, or 2. They are popular and are spreading them around. The standard neck is still avilable, this is a option not a replacement, so we get more choices which is great, unless you are one of those people that think more choices just confuse people and someone should limit choices in order to help everyone make the "right" choice.

I like the way they look and I am interested in playing one before I pass judgement.



Ah, the fact that it's an option is cool. I thought this was a direct replacement for the rosewood neck. Which would seem... a tad bizarre. The fact that this was rolled out on a more exclusive line first makes sense. I have no interest in limiting people's choices. However, as a Precision bass player and one that prefers vintage specs my options are nearly nil. Guitarists lecturing bassists about options is laughable. My beef with Fender is that for over 30 years there have been fairly large wholes in their American Vintage line. Especially where the P bass is concerned. Yet they seem to be able to find the resources to churn out endless amounts of "fads" on their modern lower end instruments. Fads that come and go. So, no. I'm not in favor of limiting options at all. I'm in favor of more of them. However, it gets old seeing an endless parade of gimmicks and junk rolled out and nothing of real substance that pays tribute to what made the company great.

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Post subject: Re: The American Standard, Now With a Channel-Bound Fingerbo
Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 7:16 am
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I played a CS Jazzmaster with the Channel-Bound Fingerboard at GC recently. I couldn't help but feel like I was playing an overly plastic neck/fingerboard, way above and beyond a traditional bound neck/fingerboard. Sure, the instrument's quality was all there, clearly not an issue but I guess being the old geezer that I am, it's just not for me. This is not to say that it's a bad thing nor should it deter others from giving them a shot. Further, those who proclaim FMIC is committing "sacrilege" with this and/or other "hybrids" of the traditional stuff is an injustice to FMIC. Why should FMIC be condemned for trying out different things for us and giving us new and varied options to what they feel are upgrades to some of the traditional specs? Frankly, I think some of them are pretty damn good. What seems to be downplayed here is the fact that for those who demand it, the 'pure' vintage appointment models are still abundantly available and FMIC has no intentions of discontinuing them; so what's the problem? Just like picks, pickguards, strings, etc, etc, one's choice of shape, thickness and materiel is strictly a personal satisfaction thing. Consequently, in terms of the "Big Picture", aside from someone speaking for them self, it really is folly to unilaterally proclaim what is good, better, and/or best. To do so hinges on more inane "Web Dogma".

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