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Post subject: The American Standard, Now With a Channel-Bound Fingerboard
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:49 am
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Have you seen the latest incarnation of the American Standard, our latest addition to the Limited Edition series of instruments? We've taken our classic American Standard Strat® and Tele® guitars that you know and love and equipped them with sleek channel-bound fingerboards for even greater playability. The rosewood fingerboard fits right inside the neck, making it flush with the maple for a smoother surface, rounder edges and optimal comfort. Not to mention, the compound radius makes the Limited Edition American Standard the perfect instrument for musicians who like to vary their playing style between bending and chording.

Check it out and let us know what you think. Thanks, everyone!


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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 9:28 am
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I think you should return the basses to the vintage radius and fretwire. What makes for a good guitar does not make for a good bass. Also, please expand the American Vintage Line to include a First Generation Precision Bass. Like a 51 Reissue. This is an interesting innovation, though.

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Post subject: Re: The American Standard, Now With a Channel-Bound Fingerbo
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:19 am
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I'm not sure I see the benefit. There will always be a joint where maple and rosewood meets - it has just shifted from the side of the neck to the front of the neck.
If not having the two woods meet 100% smoothly or wearing at different rates are seen as potential problems, this now shifts the problem from the side of the neck, where it's a comfort issue, to the actual fretboard, where it can affect bends.

More than anything else, what I see here is one more model that doesn't have a replacement neck in the Fender store.


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Post subject: Re: The American Standard, Now With a Channel-Bound Fingerbo
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 12:09 pm
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I'm not sure I see the benefit. There will always be a joint where maple and rosewood meets - it has just shifted from the side of the neck to the front of the neck.
If not having the two woods meet 100% smoothly or wearing at different rates are seen as potential problems, this now shifts the problem from the side of the neck, where it's a comfort issue, to the actual fretboard, where it can affect bends.

More than anything else, what I see here is one more model that doesn't have a replacement neck in the Fender store.



Doesn't this basically make it play like a bound fretboard in terms of playability? Simply using the neck wood in place of the normal binding material that transitions from the neck to the fretboard? I don't know. All I see is a push at Fender to get farther and farther away from what made a Fender instrument a Fender instrument. Flatter radii, channel bound necks. Leave that to the other 100 guitar makers out there. Who needs it? I only play maple so I really don't care about this in particular, but I wonder when Fender is going to get back to making Fenders and not just knock-offs of the guitars that made them legendary?

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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 1:56 pm
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I would agree that fender is moving away from thier roots if these were taking the place of thier vintage style instruments. But they aren't. As long as the RI's are there fender's just adding models to thier lineup to try and please everyone. Personally they could eliminate every model in thier catalog thats not a vintage reissue and i'd be fine with that. I don't like the tone of fenders with modern design aspects like the non vintage truss rods and 2 point bridges. But they're just trying to please everyone. I can understand that w/o liking it.


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Post subject: Re: The American Standard, Now With a Channel-Bound Fingerbo
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:30 pm
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You say that, but the Custom Shop routinely puts out what it sells as "vintage" style instruments with modern specs. Even most classic series instruments aren't faithful. Really the only true reissues are the American Vintage series at this point. We can't even get an American made vintage spec First Gen Precision. 32 years and we're still stuck at two split coils. Yet the damn Jaguar Bass has an American level offering. It's like Bizarro World. Even at the Custom Shop level now. The last 51 the custom shop did had modern frets and a stacked coil. Which pretty much defeats the entire purpose of ordering the instrument as what made it special was that it was a single pick up, single coil mid position bass. It's perfection in it's simplicity. I'll never understand the constant need to try to reinvent the wheel instead of trying to put out better quality. Fender has offered nothing special to bassists since the early 60's. This company acts like Gibson now. It's basses are an afterthought and simply get treated like giant guitars. "If it makes sense for the guitars then it must be carried over to the bass." Madness.

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Post subject: Re: The American Standard, Now With a Channel-Bound Fingerbo
Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 1:33 am
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Personally I never seen any Fender bass guitar with that channel bound neck/fretboard, I think it's now time to offer an American Standard Precision or a rectangular block-inlaid Jazz with that feature. :roll:


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Post subject: Re: The American Standard, Now With a Channel-Bound Fingerbo
Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 4:18 am
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Oh, look. A completely pointless nonsense post by someone trying to be funny. If you can't follow the discussion and see how the overall abandoning of classic Fender specs at all levels of the company is an issue for some people then maybe you ought to go hang in the Squier forum. :roll:

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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 4:42 am
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Fender makes vintage-style instruments loaded with contemporary features to respond to the needs of musicians who want modern playability from their axe. But it doesn't mean the California giant had completely abandoned its past.


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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 5:09 am
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I've never tried the compound radius models. Maybe I'll demo this one.

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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 5:32 am
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As a feature this seems like something that might be better suited to The American Deluxe line model. Where "early adopters" are mroe easily found.

As far as Fender marketing vintage style instruments with modern features to their market. It has nothing to do with "giving people what they want". It has to do with leaning out manufacturing. Which increases profits. If they can move to one neck spec they will decrease their costs across the board.

Given the vast amount of overstock that retailers carry at all levels and the fact that it's much harder to find, say a fully vintage spec'd Custom Shop 55 Precision one might think that maybe they aren't reading their market very well. The fact that you can go to Musician's Friend and find almost a dozen "50's and 60's" CS Precision models that just sit, and sit and sit. However, they usually only carry one true vintage correct piece here and there and it rarely stays in stock long would lead anyone with any grasp on markets to understand that they aren't serving their customers well. They are trying to push their market toward the specs this company adopted in the 80's shortly after the sale which fall more in line with the rest of the industry, and trying to move it away from traditional Fender specs. "Why?" Because there are Fender fans and then there's everyone else.

The suits have decided that chasing the big market. Despite the stiff competition gives them the biggest cut and run profit. Where as staying true to the market that wants only what Fender alone offers allows for stability, but not rapid growth. Which is the goal of large corporations and the people who cash in on their rapid growth and bottom fall out way of management. Not the goal of people who are in it for the long haul. FMIC has become CBS.

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Post subject: Re: The American Standard, Now With a Channel-Bound Fingerbo
Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 7:32 am
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TheKingofPain wrote:
As far as Fender marketing vintage style instruments with modern features to their market. It has nothing to do with "giving people what they want".


Wow. I'll just let you believe that rather than try and reason with you.


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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 7:33 am
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I like the new American Standard, the fat 50's pickups, the bent steel saddles and the compound radius neck.
I echo everyone's sentiments regarding true vintage and classic Fenders but for me it is the 60's slab bodied Telecaster bass that I hope for. I still get a twinge to pull the trigger on the Telecaster bass that is offered now then reality says "it wouldn't be the same". Wait I will.

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Post subject: Re: The American Standard, Now With a Channel-Bound Fingerbo
Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 10:22 am
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Wow! Fender could give away $100 bills and some people would still complain. :roll:

Fender sells what is popular. If only a relatively few people want a particular guitar, it doesn't make sense to continue to offer something that isn't selling. On the other hand, continuing to innovate and offer something new and different makes a lot of sense. Fender still offers vintage spec instruments, and plenty of them.

I really like the idea of channel bound fret boards, really like the looks and feel. The Am Std is very close, but I want an SSS with the channel bound rosewood neck and maple fret board, and pups that I don't already have. I just might have to go with an HSS. 8)

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Post subject: Re: The American Standard, Now With a Channel-Bound Fingerbo
Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 11:28 am
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Yep, but they not offer channel-bound basses in addition to guitars! :twisted:

I've opened a poll on that subject with the hope Fender listening their clientele and add a channel-bound bass guitar in their line of MIA instruments.


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