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Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:26 pm
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''N'' - because it's used :-) I am very excited and satisfied , though I have read negative things about it. It is a Princeton Recording Amp. 100% OK , seems to be good as new. Drove for hours to get it , been playing for hours after that :D
What an inspiring thing !!! I like the sound of it clean , but also with the distortion in , and the compressor. And , of course - very cool with the built-in attenuator.
I guess I will get some negative comments on it , and I can see that this might be a complicated amp to fix , if necessary- but right now , I am just thrilled :-)
Sorry - photos loading slowly , will put out some tomorrow . Now it is deep into the night here - have to visit my bed :wink:

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Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:55 pm
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I've seen them in the stores but never tried one. How transparent would say the attenuator is? Some attenuators colour the tone significantly. Any idea who makes it? I've not read up on it. I think a low powered amp with an attenuator might just make the perfect bedroom amp and we do get a lot of questions about the best bedroom amps. As far as reliability and repairs go, I think the word around the campfire is that Fender is beginning to get a handle on some of the issues they've been having in the past decade or so.

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Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:57 pm
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Congrats on the new gear day, BTW ....

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Post subject: Re: ''NAD''
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 10:34 pm
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Congratulations asgeirman! Looking forward to pic's 8)

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Post subject: Re: ''NAD''
Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 2:20 am
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Thank You , guys !
When it comes to HOW transparent the attenuator is ,it is difficult to answer - since I mostly played with it engaged , late in the evening/night yesterday.But the sound I got from it , was very satisfying ! And I would say - this one would be hard to beat as a ''bedroom-amp'' ! And I've tried several. It's even got a 'line-out' , and a headphone-jack ( Have not tried those yet)

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Well - the only thing I'm a bit worried about , is : Why is it discontinued ? To me it appears to satisfy all I need in an amp. My band has long been playing mainly acoustic , but has slowly developed into full electric. Yet we don't play at stadiums :lol: -so I'm pretty sure this one will do the job all right out there :-)

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Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:05 am
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I had one very briefly a ways back and the amp would overheat and start sputtering and shut down. I only had it a few days, saw the writing on the wall and took it back. I saw others had similar problems. If you're not having issues and enjoy the amp, I wouldn't worry about it. Watch the attenuator knob going through doorways. A friend of mine sheared his off. Still a pretty cool amp I wished it worked out for me. The funny thing is, the Princeton was a great recording amp without all the bells and whistles.

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Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:30 am
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Very nice! If heat is the issue, it could be one on the NPN transistors or IC chips in the effects area. It's a tight space in that chassis I bet, but heat "sinks" can be added to any sensitive parts. If it never becomes a problem, then forget about it...Rock on.

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Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 7:29 am
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Thanks for the tips , guys - I'll remember them. So far , no prob :-) Maybe things will show up during a rehearsal or gig :-(
I suspect that problems might come if I go for full volume for hours ,while ''strangling'' it with the attenuator....

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Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 9:20 am
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WOW A-MAN! Looks Groovy To Me :wink: Congrats! 8)

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Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 9:34 am
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Sounding groovy , as well , linnin :D Thank You !

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Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 2:37 pm
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Cool pics, cool rig thanks for posting!

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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:06 pm
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Well, seems no one ragged on you. If they did, so what? If you're happy, that is all that matters. Congrats on your new amp! :)


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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:06 pm
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I think people have the wrong idea about the attenuator putting stress on the amp. It's running it wide open for hours at a time that puts stress on it. If you took two amps and ran one wide open with no attenuator and one wide open with, I would expect the same performance. If you have the proper attenuator. From what I can tell, with a tube amp you need one rated at least twice the rated wattage of your amp because tube amp wattage is based on what they can produce mostly clean. Also, they have dynamic attenuators that give the amp the same load that it would get from a speaker at different volumes. I can see if you were using a cheap resistor attenuator rated the same wattage as the amp it would create stress on the amp at higher volumes. I think that is what many have tried and had bad results. Of course, I'm sure there are people on both sides with this. If something goes wrong and you're using one, it's going to be hard not to suspect it.

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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:36 am
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Solid Body Love Songs wrote:
Cool pics, cool rig thanks for posting!

Cool :-)

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Well, seems no one ragged on you. If they did, so what? If you're happy, that is all that matters. Congrats on your new amp! :)

To be honest - that would not matter.I often take some intuitive choices, some bad - some good. Still happy with it :-) Thank you !

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I think people have the wrong idea about the attenuator putting stress on the amp. It's running it wide open for hours at a time that puts stress on it. If you took two amps and ran one wide open with no attenuator and one wide open with, I would expect the same performance. If you have the proper attenuator. From what I can tell, with a tube amp you need one rated at least twice the rated wattage of your amp because tube amp wattage is based on what they can produce mostly clean. Also, they have dynamic attenuators that give the amp the same load that it would get from a speaker at different volumes. I can see if you were using a cheap resistor attenuator rated the same wattage as the amp it would create stress on the amp at higher volumes. I think that is what many have tried and had bad results. Of course, I'm sure there are people on both sides with this. If something goes wrong and you're using one, it's going to be hard not to suspect it.

I'm pretty sure You're right about that. I haven't yet checked the specs for the built-in attenuator, But I suspect Fender to have it properly dimensioned !

I don't feel the urge to turn volume all the way up and strangle it with the attenuator. It 'breaks up' pretty early when I use a tiny bit with built-in distortion , and some easy use of the attenuator

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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 8:06 am
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Running any amp wide open all the time with or without an attenuator is hard on the tubes. The attenuator allows to run the amp that way at low output levels. It's still a waste to run a tube amp that way because most amps have a sweet spot and from my experience it's not with the amp and guitar volume controls flat out.

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