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Post subject: nut scratches
Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 11:39 am
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Hello Fender geeks.
Today I removed my Telecaster nut (Dead Buzzy E) for a replacement.
First time doing the work, here's the aftermath.

http://imgur.com/a/S66mX

I tried to be really accurate but the old nut was really deep glued. I wonder why Fender placed so much glue on it in the first time.
I scraped a bit the borders and the corners. I also scratched the neck, just in the surface.

Are those scratches bad at all?What can i do about it?Should I polish around it or leave everything like that? :roll:


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Post subject: Re: nut scratches
Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 12:11 pm
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For nut scratches, I recommend a cortizone ointment.


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Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 12:25 pm
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Should i put cortizone just in the nut or in the neck as well?


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Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 12:34 pm
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My nut is not itchy.

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Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 12:42 pm
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Looks like a job for Supraglue. Be carful not to glue your hand to your nut.

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Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 4:45 pm
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Post subject: Re: nut scratches
Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 4:58 pm
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OP...You're kidding right? Just glue in your nut and forget the scratch, the very, very small scratch even exists, you'll do more damage to get rid of it, that just learning to live with it.

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Post subject: Re: nut scratches
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 5:47 pm
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Thanks guys but my balls are actually fine :D

Anyway i give it a little polish before placing a new nut, they shipped me white melamine instead of bone but i'm actually waiting for a brass one.

http://imgur.com/yD0xRC1

I'm scared about carving the string holes in it. Any advice about it? Would wrong positions create bad sound?


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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 6:15 pm
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 9:43 pm
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+1 It's best to pay a pro for somethings...

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Post subject: Re: nut scratches
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 10:21 pm
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Do you have slot files? You pretty much destroyed the old nut, so tracing that slot spacing would not be the way. You can copy another Tele with the same neck size or position the "E" strings where you want, then measure that and divide out even spacing for the other strings. Keep in mind that if it's different than the factory spacing (even by 1 or 1.5 mm) it will feel different. It won't hurt the tone or sound. Sometimes it's a good thing to bring the spacing in by 1 or 2 mm's (across the entire spacing, not each string) if you have problems with the "E" strings slipping off the neck while playing. However, be warned it will change the feel of open chords and licks at the nut. This can make playing chords and having enough space to not touch the open strings harder by cramping the space.

Here are some tips from what I have found working with guitar nuts:
1. Use the correct tool or don't bother (seriously)
2. Go slow, because you will take to much off before you know it.
3. Keep in mind the angle of slot you're cutting (1 or 2 wrong cuts and you're out) Usually buzzing on an open sting that's not hitting a fret is a bad slot angle.
4. Plan it all out and mark it with a pencil or pen.
5. If you get your radius cut really well, but they are all a little high, you can shave the bottom by sliding across sand paper glued to a flat surface. (again 1 or 2 swipes then test, so easy to take off more than you expect and get some weird angle) Also again, slow.

If this is your first time, plan on going through a few nuts. Watch some tutorials and look for tips you can use. Lots on youtube. I'm sure you can find the factory spacing and string height at the nut on the web if needed.
Good luck. It's not that it's hard, it's just easy to screw up. However, that how you learn these things and you can always start over.

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Post subject: Re: nut scratches
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 11:27 pm
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Deluxe Matt wrote:
5. If you get your radius cut really well, but they are all a little high, you can shave the bottom by sliding across sand paper glued to a flat surface. (again 1 or 2 swipes then test, so easy to take off more than you expect and get some weird angle) Also again, slow.

This does not apply in nut's nut: pic#4 on the imgur-link shows radiused bottom.
Makes it again a little more difficult.


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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 4:23 am
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jmattis wrote:
Deluxe Matt wrote:
5. If you get your radius cut really well, but they are all a little high, you can shave the bottom by sliding across sand paper glued to a flat surface. (again 1 or 2 swipes then test, so easy to take off more than you expect and get some weird angle) Also again, slow.

This does not apply in nut's nut: pic#4 on the imgur-link shows radiused bottom.
Makes it again a little more difficult.

Ah-ha, well spotted. And since Mr Nut says he's planning to go with a brass nut that's going to make life quite tricky. I stand to be corrected, but I don't remember seeing brass nuts supplied with pre-radiused bottoms.

I think if I'd never cut a nut before a brass one is not where I'd want to start. And I wouldn't put my expensive nut files anywhere near brass...

Nut, if you find it all getting a bit difficult you could always revert to one of Graphtech's pre-slotted TUSQ Strat nuts. To fit them to a radiused nut slot all you have to do is trim off a small tab on their bottom edge, and I've sometimes found they go in with little or occasionally no adjustments needed in the slotting.

One of many solutions to this situation.

Now. Thinking about smooth string pull let's talk a bit about our ball ends...

Cheers - C

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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:35 am
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Ceri wrote:
Ah-ha, well spotted. And since Mr Nut says he's planning to go with a brass nut that's going to make life quite tricky. I stand to be corrected, but I don't remember seeing brass nuts supplied with pre-radiused bottoms.

I think if I'd never cut a nut before a brass one is not where I'd want to start.


I believe that with a metal nut, you don't cut the nut to fit the neck, you cut the neck to fit the nut. That makes it harder to revert, of course.


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Post subject: Re: nut scratches
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:52 am
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Thanks for the help.

I think i'll buy a string spacing rule.

As you may have understand I'm experiencing. When i'll need a perfect sound on this guitar i would go to the luthier.
I'm also experimenting with light strings and custom sets. I'm afraid the guitar guy would just think i'm the common noob and give me a normal nut shape.
Carving a fair nut doesn't look so hard but what i'm really missing are the tools, i watched this video about making a bass nut and the guy is really using a lot of tools and machinery.

I'm looking at violins. Apparently violin luthiers are more into soft hand work instead of big grinders.


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