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Post subject: Guitar Hang'en (caution rant)
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:02 pm
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It's a lot easier to hang guitars when the studs are spaced with 16" or 24" (US) to center. Mine are a random 18-24", from the short side or not. I'd like to smack the guy in the mouth that built this room! :evil: How did they hang the dry wall with that crap!

I'll be using a stud finder in this house from now on.

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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 6:42 pm
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Deluxe Matt wrote:
How did they hang the dry wall with that crap!


I'd be more concerned with how the entire structure managed to pass code.

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Post subject: Re: Guitar Hang'en (caution rant)
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 8:06 pm
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Thank goodness I live in a house with sturdy old-fashioned wood walls.
Where I drive in a screw or hammer in a nail, it sits.
I probably drove my real estate agent crazy back then, but i specifically said "no prefab houses, plaster walls nor anything described as modern".


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Post subject: Re: Guitar Hang'en (caution rant)
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:27 am
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I've seen 24" spacing in commercial buildings in non load bearing walls, but never in residential housing. On rare occasion, I've seen some 20" spacing here and there. Very rare.

You guys should see where I'm working now. It's a place called The Martin in Las Vegas. They're high end luxury condos on the other side of the freeway from the strip. I'm on the 44th floor, so the view is great.

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The view is great, the floor, not so much. I have to install an aluminum C-channel on the walls that the marble floor will butt up to. But the floor from end to end dips 2-3/4". The flooring guy says it will take 6-8 pallets of mud to float the floor.

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Post subject: Re: Guitar Hang'en (caution rant)
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:39 am
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Jah Soldier wrote:
But the floor from end to end dips 2-3/4".


The girder guy leave his level at home that day?

I wonder how much the building inspectors were paid off......?

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Post subject: Re: Guitar Hang'en (caution rant)
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 3:25 am
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Jah Soldier wrote:
But the floor from end to end dips 2-3/4".

Gosh!

To give The House a secret advantage of some sort on the roulette tables on the ground floor, perhaps...?

Anyhow. Some of us have to contend with brick and/or stone walls. So count yourself lucky. Floor-standing guitar hangers are sometimes the easiest route, for the lazy DIYer.

Cheers - C

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Post subject: Re: Guitar Hang'en (caution rant)
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:18 am
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Matt, where is this moon base you call home? By your framing pattern, it sounds like Arizona. I've seen it all here.
I made my own hangers. The back plate is long enough to have 2 screw holes. Toggle bolts will support a guitar over drywall. Drywall has good shear-strength, if the hole for the toggle is drilled outwith a 1/2" bit, rather than just punching a hole in the wall.


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Post subject: Re: Guitar Hang'en (caution rant)
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:26 am
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Taurus wrote:
Toggle bolts will support a guitar over drywall. Drywall has good shear-strength, if the hole for the toggle is drilled outwith a 1/2" bit, rather than just punching a hole in the wall.


I know in my heart this is true...I just can't do it...needs to be in wood for me to sleep at night.

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Post subject: Re: Guitar Hang'en (caution rant)
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:44 am
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I know in my heart this is true...I just can't do it...needs to be in wood for me to sleep at night.


Your concern is understandable, Joe.

I wanted no problems with the twelve continuous feet of slat board I installed in my new music room since it would need to support fifteen or twenty guitars on individual hangers. Full wood between the wall studs provided ample security to keep everything in place......

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Post subject: Re: Guitar Hang'en (caution rant)
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 11:52 am
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HeyJoe42 wrote:
Taurus wrote:
Toggle bolts will support a guitar over drywall. Drywall has good shear-strength, if the hole for the toggle is drilled outwith a 1/2" bit, rather than just punching a hole in the wall.


I know in my heart this is true...I just can't do it...needs to be in wood for me to sleep at night.

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I am going to pick up a stud finder today and figure out what's going on here. I may get some new wood and start this project over. There up (guitars), but the job doesn't look like I want it to. I thought about cutting out the dry wall, I may. I have a 1x4 running across and mounted to studs, then hangars mounted to the 1x4.

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Post subject: Re: Guitar Hang'en (caution rant)
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:28 pm
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I hung 100-lb mirrors using 2 of these. I guarantee you, one will easily hold a guitar.

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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:50 pm
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Deluxe Matt wrote:
I have a 1x4 running across and mounted to studs, then hangars mounted to the 1x4.


This is a perfectly valid method for providing structural reinforcement but I would change that 1x4 to a 2x6 plank for added support. A nice piece of cedar suitably stained and finished would add some class to your display.

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Post subject: Re: Guitar Hang'en (caution rant)
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 2:06 pm
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Where be all the ranting pray tell? :o


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Post subject: Re: Guitar Hang'en (caution rant)
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 2:23 pm
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I saw this tip in Guitar Player Magazine years ago.You can get around the problem of having irregularly spaced studs by attaching the length of 2X4 or 2X6 that you need to the existing studs with good strong lag screws etc. and then sistering on the type of wood that you want to mount the guitar hangers on,that way you have a solid base for the guitars but it's covered over by a piece of higher grade wood with even screw spacing and grain that you like.

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Post subject: Re: Guitar Hang'en (caution rant)
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 7:03 pm
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Update: Picked up a stud finder, but all it did was point at me :lol: No, I did get a stud finder and the other walls are 16" to center. I think there may have been a door there or something (this house is older and has gone through change). Anyway, got some nice looking 1x6 and so far so good. I've got some more to hang, but the one I've got set up would hold the roof up.

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