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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 10:32 am
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Post subject: Re: Food For Thought
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:16 pm
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[quote="Buxom]...my Guild. The swimming pool routehas blood spatter on the inside under the pickguard...[/quote]

That reminds me of the Steve Vai splatter paint guitar that purported to have some of Steve's own blood in the paint of every guitar. :o

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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:18 pm
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shimmilou wrote:
[quote="Buxom]...my Guild. The swimming pool routehas blood spatter on the inside under the pickguard...[/quote]

That reminds me of the Steve Vai splatter paint guitar that purported to have some of Steve's own blood in the paint of every guitar. :o[/quote]


Was that the "DNA" signature model? :mrgreen:

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Post subject: Re: Food For Thought
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:28 pm
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Martian wrote:
For those who purchase new guitars with the relic look, or to put it another way, a new guitar that has been factory abused to impersonate decades of legitimate road use, shouldn't said guitar also come with some serious buildup of at least, tobacco, alcohol and body odor residuals in order to complete the "vibe"? I mean, if a relic is your thing, why not go all the way?

And then there are those who sell relics proclaiming they are in "mint condition".

Discuss.


From Arth2.0 replies: Tobacco would dry up and crumble and the stain would be minimal if detectable at all. The water in alcohol would evaporate, leaving what little else makes up alcohol and body odor that's not coming directly from someone or something basically looses its stench over time. Face it, you can't market a "true" relic in your own words! :lol:


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Post subject: Re: Food For Thought
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:41 pm
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JimRussellMills30! wrote:
Martian wrote:
For those who purchase new guitars with the relic look, or to put it another way, a new guitar that has been factory abused to impersonate decades of legitimate road use, shouldn't said guitar also come with some serious buildup of at least, tobacco, alcohol and body odor residuals in order to complete the "vibe"? I mean, i[img]f%20a[/img] relic is your thing, why not go all the way?

And then there are those who sell relics proclaiming they are in "mint condition".

Discuss.


From Arth2.0 replies: Tobacco would dry up and crumble and the stain would be minimal if detectable at all. The water in alcohol would evaporate, leaving what little else makes up alcohol and body odor that's not coming directly from someone or something basically looses its stench over time. Face it, you can't market a "true" relic in your own words! :lol:


So let us design a "true" relic. Here goes. Soak the body and neck in beer and old socks for a few weeks and toss used cigarette butts in there too for good measure. Then after it air dries toss it down a flight of stairs, slap it with files, and take a belt sander and blow torch to it.

Seems to me this it what some of the forum members think would be a proper relic. So lets actually do it see how it pans out. Maybe we will make a fortune off all the loser suckers :roll: Because I am sure all those suckers would be much more satisfied after spending 3 or 4 thousand for a custom shop relic if it smells like beer, cigarettes and old socks. Image

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Post subject: Re: Food For Thought
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:54 pm
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I recently cleaned film of gunk off an 80 y/o guitar. It brightened up the paintwork considerably. I wasn't sure at first but I did it carefully. It's much nicer now. I like the play-wear but I don't need the filth. So I think adding it to a relic would be idiotic.
Yes I realize this thread is a sarcastic attack on anyone who dares to consider an artificially reliced guitar. I personally don't own one.
Food for thought eh? More like feeding your own ego.


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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:01 pm
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I recently cleaned film of gunk off an 80 y/o guitar. It brightened up the paintwork considerably. I wasn't sure at first but I did it carefully. It's much nicer now. I like the play-wear but I don't need the filth. So I think adding it to a relic would be idiotic.
Yes I realize this thread is a sarcastic attack on anyone who dares to consider an artificially reliced guitar. I personally don't own one.
Food for thought eh? More like feeding your own ego.


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Which is why those who post comments about things they do not understand....tend to have "foot in mouth" issues and only end up embarrassing themselves. The smart ones know when to quit...but some just like to insert that foot deeper and deeper until they can see outside of their own butthole LOL. Or maybe they just like being put into their place over and over and enjoy a good logical bitchslapping?

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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:03 pm
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Post subject: Re: Food For Thought
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:09 pm
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ebaysux wrote:
JimRussellMills30! wrote:
Martian wrote:
For those who purchase new guitars with the relic look, or to put it another way, a new guitar that has been factory abused to impersonate decades of legitimate road use, shouldn't said guitar also come with some serious buildup of at least, tobacco, alcohol and body odor residuals in order to complete the "vibe"? I mean, i[img]f%20a[/img] relic is your thing, why not go all the way?

And then there are those who sell relics proclaiming they are in "mint condition".

Discuss.


From Arth2.0 replies: Tobacco would dry up and crumble and the stain would be minimal if detectable at all. The water in alcohol would evaporate, leaving what little else makes up alcohol and body odor that's not coming directly from someone or something basically looses its stench over time. Face it, you can't market a "true" relic in your own words! :lol:


So let us design a "true" relic. Here goes. Soak the body and neck in beer and old socks for a few weeks and toss used cigarette butts in there too for good measure.


Heck the inside of the guitar case might have the smell of beer or old socks. You have to take into consideration that some liquids, gases and solids would have to be in the right situation to thrive and survive. Everything would be diluted and broken down over time. Nah, nah to your "true" relic blasphemy, as you've been locked up inside your think tank for way to long! :wink:


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Post subject: Re: Food For Thought
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:42 pm
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Okay so here is a solution and we will continue to make money from it. Bottle the scent and call it "relic stench". All the owner has to do is spray it in the case when he is ready to put it away and then "refresh" it when you take the guitar out to play. This way we not only make money on the relic, but on supplying the bottled scent. Is that genius or what? And we can even have the bottle logo say "relic" in fender spaghetti logo script. Brilliant. This way it will be a "true" relic and always have the fresh scent of old socks, beer and cigarettes just like these sucker hobbyist relic lovers have been demanding for their thousands and for some reason Fender missed the boat.

Because we all know deep down anyone spending that much on a relic, wants it to stink. :roll:

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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:59 pm
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ebaysux wrote:
Okay so here is a solution and we will continue to make money from it. Bottle the scent and call it "relic stench". All the owner has to do is spray it in the case when he is ready to put it away and then "refresh" it when you take the guitar out to play. This way we not only make money on the relic, but on supplying the bottled scent. Is that genius or what? And we can even have the bottle logo say "relic" in fender spaghetti logo script. Brilliant. This way it will be a "true" relic and always have the fresh scent of old socks, beer and cigarettes just like these sucker hobbyist relic lovers have been demanding for their thousands and for some reason Fender missed the boat.

Because we all know deep down anyone spending that much on a relic, wants it to stink. :roll:


Hmmmm..you may be onto something here.maybe fender could put guys like Clapton/ beck on a treadmill and bottle their sweat..that way you would have truly authentic " relic stench" of your favorite player.... :D


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Post subject: Re: Food For Thought
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:15 pm
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I once bought a guitar that was so filthy the owners of the music store refused to even try to clean it, they just hung it up with the nice guitars and said the heck with it. Of course, I came walking in, drifted over to that guitar immediately and ended up buying (what would eventually be) a beautiful early 70s vintage Yamaha SG-200 for about $45.

Once I got through with a few hours of serious cleaning, I had a beautiful guitar that would to this day not qualify as either road worn or a relic.

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This guitar became my #2 gig guitar for years.

Getting back to the theme of this thread, I would never say anything bad about relics or roadworn guitars for fear of being labeled a dick by one of the Forum's newer and very prolific members...

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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:27 pm
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A while back I was visiting a well known luthier in my area. He works on a lot of old vintage gear. While we were talking he got a serious look on his face then then pulled out a beat up old tweed Fender case from under his counter. He opened it up and said, "See what this guy brought in the other day." It was a 1957 Strat.

It was not in real bad condition for it's age. He asked me what I thought about it. I picked it up gently and looked it over carefully, then strummed it for a while. The feel was fantastic. Lots of wear on the body and the neck. Some rust and tarnish on the plated parts. He asked me what I thought a guitar like that was worth. I was afraid to say. I placed it carefully back in the case. He waited for a long time, just looking seriously at me. Finally he broke into a loud laugh. "That's a 1996 Made In Japan Strat! I thought you would know better!" It was a test... :shock:

Some guy he knew meticulously reliced the whole guitar and it was well done. I don't know if it was the way he presented it, or because who he is, that convinced me that it might actually be original. But the joke was on me. It really did look authentic. He told me this guy sells these guitars for pretty big bucks. Well it looked cool and it was broke in! Would I buy one? no... would I like to take an old MIJ 57 Strat and beat it up and make it look relic? Sure! :wink:

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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:44 pm
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I once bought a guitar that was so filthy the owners of the music store refused to even try to clean it, they just hung it up with the nice guitars and said the heck with it. Of course, I came walking in, drifted over to that guitar immediately and ended up buying (what would eventually be) a beautiful early 70s vintage Yamaha SG-200 for about $45.

Once I got through with a few hours of serious cleaning, I had a beautiful guitar that would to this day not qualify as either road worn or a relic.

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This guitar became my #2 gig guitar for years.

Getting back to the theme of this thread, I would never say anything bad about relics or roadworn guitars for fear of being labeled a dick by one of the Forum's newer and very prolific members...


I saw what you did there. If it was addressed at me I would certainly not call anyone a dick for expressing their opinions regarding relics. But the line gets drawn when it becomes personal insults against those who do like relics. Would you like me to copy and paste all the personal insults against relic owners that were posted here as evidence...or do you take my word for it? And if you look at my join date you will see I am not so new.

And I am glad for you that the dirty guitar you found cleaned up so well. And if it did not how would you like if I called you a moron for buying it? That is EXACTLY what some of the members have not only implied regarding the topic...but have blatantly stated it. How they were not issued warnings by the forum moderator is beyond me...perhaps they did not see the comments yet.

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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:55 pm
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Xhefri wrote:
A while back I was visiting a well known luthier in my area. He works on a lot of old vintage gear. While we were talking he got a serious look on his face then then pulled out a beat up old tweed Fender case from under his counter. He opened it up and said, "See what this guy brought in the other day." It was a 1957 Strat.

It was not in real bad condition for it's age. He asked me what I thought about it. I picked it up gently and looked it over carefully, then strummed it for a while. The feel was fantastic. Lots of wear on the body and the neck. Some rust and tarnish on the plated parts. He asked me what I thought a guitar like that was worth. I was afraid to say. I placed it carefully back in the case. He waited for a long time, just looking seriously at me. Finally he broke into a loud laugh. "That's a 1996 Made In Japan Strat! I thought you would know better!" It was a test... :shock:

Some guy he knew meticulously reliced the whole guitar and it was well done. I don't know if it was the way he presented it, or because who he is, that convinced me that it might actually be original. But the joke was on me. It really did look authentic. He told me this guy sells these guitars for pretty big bucks. Well it looked cool and it was broke in! Would I buy one? no... would I like to take an old MIJ 57 Strat and beat it up and make it look relic? Sure! :wink:



Exactly how I feel. I like the look of an older worn 50s/60s guitar. I do not buy relics since I took the time to learn how to properly do it myself and not have it come out looking like a train wreck but very close to authentic. Did I do this to rip anyone off? NO. Did I do this to fool anyone? NO. I did it because I don't have 30-40 thousand to buy an original one and use my talents to create my own because I can. And I do not insult others who would spend big bucks for a custom shop relic because it is their right to own and enjoy and perhaps they do not feel confident making one themselves. Same as if anyone buys a Clapton model or an EJ model or even a reissue. Sure I can build one myself for much less but it is not "official"....and that is why people are willing to pay more for one that Fender made...it does not even mean it is better as I can use the same exact parts. But either way it comes down to respecting others tastes and I have been seeing a lack of respect here just because not everyone has such a vitriol and hate for what someone else does with their own piece of wood.

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