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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 7:07 am
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orvilleowner wrote:
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Woah, didn't realise MIM bodies were of so many pieces!


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I don't know if anyone would know this, but do guitar bodies, especially ash with dense grain weigh more?

Like this...

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Compared to this...

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Great thread.

However, 'remember about 10 years back, was it Benedetto who made an archtop guitar out of indistrial pallet wood(?)...

...and it sounded amazing.

His carving of the softwood (pine or fir) top and maple back and bent sides ('forget what they were) and rock maple neck and (oak?) unknown fretboard, though from trash wood, sounded and played like a $5000 guitar.

Conclusion drawn: The luthier has gob of influence and a great one can make a great guitar from 'trash' wood.


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JSJH wrote:
Great thread.

However, 'remember about 10 years back, was it Benedetto who made an archtop guitar out of indistrial pallet wood(?)...

...and it sounded amazing.

His carving of the softwood (pine or fir) top and maple back and bent sides ('forget what they were) and rock maple neck and (oak?) unknown fretboard, though from trash wood, sounded and played like a $5000 guitar.

Conclusion drawn: The luthier has gob of influence and a great one can make a great guitar from 'trash' wood.


Benedetto is a genius. I'd give my first born male child for one of his archtops. Oh yeah, I don't have any kids. Well, I still want one!

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JSJH wrote:
Conclusion drawn: The luthier has gob of influence and a great one can make a great guitar from 'trash' wood.


Sure. Now a solid body guitar has less room for the "master's touch."
So whether it's plywood, multi-piece, or one-piece, it can be a great solid body electric guitar, no?

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Wow this is a really good point you bring up liveatsix very interesting thread. Maybe this wood difference is the key to that 'x-factor' that vintage strats have that any resissues cant quite master.


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cvilleira wrote:
There is a show that is on the Discovery channel called Things
Are Tuffer In Alaska and last week they showed lumberman
in Alaska takibg dowb trees some of which they said were
4 to 5 hundred years old and when they got them to the mill
they were being marked for instuments. One company they
were stamping on them was Steinway and the guy was saying
most of the lumber goes to various instrument companies for
guitars and other instruments. They showed logs that were
ten thousand dollars a piece. That is also why you have these
divers bring logs up from the bottom up in the Great Lakes that
went to the bottom a hundreds years ago. The coldwater on the
bottom has kept them good and they some are worth tens of thousands
of dollars because of there size and age and type.



man id love to own me a strat made of 500 year old wood...the tone would be SHWEEET

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Ya that old lumber is hard to come but. I alway keep my eyes out
for certain types. picked up 6 4"x10"x 8' Ash a few monthe ago
and last year we asked a farmer if we could root around a barn he
had that was falling down he said be carefull and go at it that he was
going to have it knocker down when he sold property , well I myself
got 20 pieces of American Chestnut some of which are 2"x12"x14'
from this place it was built about 100 years ago before the blight
had killed it all of.

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Bahu wrote:
cvilleira wrote:
There is a show that is on the Discovery channel called Things
Are Tuffer In Alaska and last week they showed lumberman
in Alaska takibg dowb trees some of which they said were
4 to 5 hundred years old and when they got them to the mill
they were being marked for instuments. One company they
were stamping on them was Steinway and the guy was saying
most of the lumber goes to various instrument companies for
guitars and other instruments. They showed logs that were
ten thousand dollars a piece. That is also why you have these
divers bring logs up from the bottom up in the Great Lakes that
went to the bottom a hundreds years ago. The coldwater on the
bottom has kept them good and they some are worth tens of thousands
of dollars because of there size and age and type.



man id love to own me a strat made of 500 year old wood...the tone would be SHWEEET


Langcaster guitars make strat style guitars from 35,000 year old Swamp Kauri roots....

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Sandwich wrote:
Bahu wrote:
cvilleira wrote:
There is a show that is on the Discovery channel called Things
Are Tuffer In Alaska and last week they showed lumberman
in Alaska takibg dowb trees some of which they said were
4 to 5 hundred years old and when they got them to the mill
they were being marked for instuments. One company they
were stamping on them was Steinway and the guy was saying
most of the lumber goes to various instrument companies for
guitars and other instruments. They showed logs that were
ten thousand dollars a piece. That is also why you have these
divers bring logs up from the bottom up in the Great Lakes that
went to the bottom a hundreds years ago. The coldwater on the
bottom has kept them good and they some are worth tens of thousands
of dollars because of there size and age and type.



man id love to own me a strat made of 500 year old wood...the tone would be SHWEEET


Langcaster guitars make strat style guitars from 35,000 year old Swamp Kauri roots....

Image
I could only guess the cost of that.

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cvilleira wrote:
Sandwich wrote:
Bahu wrote:
cvilleira wrote:
There is a show that is on the Discovery channel called Things
Are Tuffer In Alaska and last week they showed lumberman
in Alaska takibg dowb trees some of which they said were
4 to 5 hundred years old and when they got them to the mill
they were being marked for instuments. One company they
were stamping on them was Steinway and the guy was saying
most of the lumber goes to various instrument companies for
guitars and other instruments. They showed logs that were
ten thousand dollars a piece. That is also why you have these
divers bring logs up from the bottom up in the Great Lakes that
went to the bottom a hundreds years ago. The coldwater on the
bottom has kept them good and they some are worth tens of thousands
of dollars because of there size and age and type.



man id love to own me a strat made of 500 year old wood...the tone would be SHWEEET


Langcaster guitars make strat style guitars from 35,000 year old Swamp Kauri roots....

Image
I could only guess the cost of that.


From reading reviews I've gathered that these go for about 3000 USD +/- 500 USD depending on the electronics, etc.


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Sandwich wrote:
cvilleira wrote:
Sandwich wrote:
Bahu wrote:
cvilleira wrote:
There is a show that is on the Discovery channel called Things
Are Tuffer In Alaska and last week they showed lumberman
in Alaska takibg dowb trees some of which they said were
4 to 5 hundred years old and when they got them to the mill
they were being marked for instuments. One company they
were stamping on them was Steinway and the guy was saying
most of the lumber goes to various instrument companies for
guitars and other instruments. They showed logs that were
ten thousand dollars a piece. That is also why you have these
divers bring logs up from the bottom up in the Great Lakes that
went to the bottom a hundreds years ago. The coldwater on the
bottom has kept them good and they some are worth tens of thousands
of dollars because of there size and age and type.



man id love to own me a strat made of 500 year old wood...the tone would be SHWEEET


Langcaster guitars make strat style guitars from 35,000 year old Swamp Kauri roots....

Image
I could only guess the cost of that.


From reading reviews I've gathered that these go for about 3000 USD +/- 500 USD depending on the electronics, etc.
Guitars made of Ash are nice and the are going to just go up in value because it is hard to get
good Ash here since the emeral boring beatle has been brought to the U.S
back 10 years ago Ash trees are all dyeing off and many states are not letting people cut them and transport American Ash or even plant them
if they come from certain states just try to slow down the destruction which is why I am holding on the the Ash wood that we have. It will be
like the American Cheastnut.

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i just learnd somthing new again


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i just learnd somthing new again


Yup, me too. That's why I like this place so much.

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A cabinet maker I know has several thousand board feet of northern White Ash that he has been sitting on. He's waiting to see what happens with the prices before he does anything with it. could be pretty profitable.


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