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Post subject: Re: Anyone seen this: Fender closing plant in Connecticut?
Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 5:21 am
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[quote="63supro"]r As far as I'm concerned when you take a low end guitar and put high end pups, hardware and electronics in it, it amount to having a low end guitar with high end stuff in it......The question I have for the guys who talk about the lack of Gibson, Fender, Guild, Gretsch etc. quality, I've rarely seen it myself except in the really low end gear, but when you do, why do you take it home?[quote]

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Post subject: Re: Anyone seen this: Fender closing plant in Connecticut?
Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 5:22 am
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For me, it was a lack of choice. The black HSS Strat with locking Trem was what I was after but in my city, there was only two to choose from. I spent about 30mins playing before I made the decision and I bought it. But that guitar was never going to be what it tried to be. Or what I wanted the guitar to be either.

It had a great bridge, but weak pickups. Hardly what I would call progressive or hot considering a guitar with a Floyd and HSS - a rocker, shredder etc.. But the pickups IMO could always get changed for better. But the deal breaker was the 9.5" radius, and the small vintage frets that just didn't belong on the guitar. They were also poorly dressed too. The quality of the rosewood on that MIM standard line has gone downhill too over the years. You get better quality rosewood from China. I mean, I could change the things I wanted to chang-, but I would've spent far too much money on that guitar and it wouldn't have been feasible.

IMO, the Fender MIM standard Strat HSS w/locking Trem should have a 12 inch radius, medium jumbo frets, Floyd Rose Ping original and a fender atomic humbucker in the bridge.

I got a Charvel San Dimas, sold that Strat and I have absolutely no remorse, no regret considering that I vowed never to sell any guitars. I'll never get a Standard Strat again, at least for those purposes anyway. The Charvel blows it sky high. Out of the ballpark. Nothing else in the Fender line fits the bill either.

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Post subject: Re: Anyone seen this: Fender closing plant in Connecticut?
Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 5:49 am
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63supro wrote:
The question I have for the guys who talk about the lack of Gibson, Fender, Guild, Gretsch etc. quality, I've rarely seen it myself except in the really low end gear, but when you do, why do you take it home? Not trying to start WWIII. Just curious. Was it bought on line and a hassle to send back? Or did it sound so good that you couldn't part with it? I've seen bad stuff from everyone. I seen Martin and Taylor guitars have issues a little further down the road that were fine new.

Sometimes you don't discover the flaws immediately.
And if you have to drive an hour to the nearest store, it does become a hassle.
Also, there are no humans in today's system. I have several times returned items and received items with the exact same fault. No human will check what's shipped even if you ask for it, because the system isn't set up to allow that.

So if it's something I can fix myself, I do. And next time, I look into other brands. Because of the quality problems I have encountered, I have serious doubts that my next guitar will be a Fender. At least not until they stop relying on automation to do all QA, and bring back humans.


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Post subject: Re: Anyone seen this: Fender closing plant in Connecticut?
Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 5:56 am
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I tour the Martin Guitar Factory a few times a year because I'm pretty close distance wise to it and I've never met so many people so proud of their work in my life.

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