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Post subject: Re: Wish I saw him then, but I'm glad I saw him now ...
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 1:49 pm
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...Chaka Khan ... Clapton is the last performer on my list. I guess I should have bitten the bullet and paid the crazy ticket price to see him at that same Hard Rock venue. He's now talking about cutting back on his touring and thinking of retirement.


Gonna see them both in a week @ JazzFest in NOLA !!

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Post subject: Re: Wish I saw him then, but I'm glad I saw him now ...
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 7:09 pm
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From what I've been hearing about this, I wonder if he might be suffering from sort of dementia? I certainly hope this isn't the case. It would be sad to see that happen to him. He is at the age that that's possible.

He's diabetic, aged, and carrying a lot of weight. I wouldn't be surprised if he weren't also hypertensive, suffering from prostate enlargement and having issues with his kidneys. All of these form a constellation of issues around each other with a common core. It's been many years now that he can't stand when performing, and has to be assisted on and off stage. There comes a time when wisdom has to intervene, and you realize it's time to hang up your guns and ride off into your legend. Not every artist lives long enough to enjoy that luxury. He should grab the brass ring and do so.

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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 7:44 pm
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There comes a time when wisdom has to intervene, and you realize it's time to hang up your guns and ride off into your legend. Not every artist lives long enough to enjoy that luxury. He should grab the brass ring and do so.

I think it should be up to him to decide what he should do. If something has been someone's entire life, it might kill them to stop. If not physically, it certainly can kill someone's spirit and will.

If he's happier playing than not playing, even with the physical problems, and people are willing to let him play for them, I don't see it as wrong at all.


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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 7:53 pm
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There comes a time when wisdom has to intervene, and you realize it's time to hang up your guns and ride off into your legend. Not every artist lives long enough to enjoy that luxury. He should grab the brass ring and do so.

I think it should be up to him to decide what he should do. If something has been someone's entire life, it might kill them to stop. If not physically, it certainly can kill someone's spirit and will.

If he's happier playing than not playing, even with the physical problems, and people are willing to let him play for them, I don't see it as wrong at all.


It's not a 'right or wrong' situation. In the end, it will be his decision.

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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 8:30 pm
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That's the thing, when you've done something your whole life and suddenly it's gone, what the hell else are you going to do? Watch TV? Maybe he could do some sort of gig where he just plays one place like a theater or club and just have people come see him, so he doesn't have to do a ton of traveling and just chill out. I guess it probably isn't financially feasible, though.

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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 9:00 pm
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Eric Clapton is B.B.'s friend and he has one of the coolest spa's on the planet. 6-8 months there with the right therapists and doctors, B.B. King would be good for a few more decades lol.

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Post subject: Re: Wish I saw him then, but I'm glad I saw him now ...
Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 1:13 am
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That's the thing, when you've done something your whole life and suddenly it's gone, what the hell else are you going to do?....

It's called 'retirement'. You do all the things you couldn't do before. In his case...sit back and smell the roses. :wink:

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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:39 am
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That's the thing, when you've done something your whole life and suddenly it's gone, what the hell else are you going to do? Watch TV? Maybe he could do some sort of gig where he just plays one place like a theater or club and just have people come see him, so he doesn't have to do a ton of traveling and just chill out. I guess it probably isn't financially feasible, though.


Of course it's feasible. He could do it at his restaurants. I'm not sure how many are in the chain, but he could do it at just one, say, the one in Nashville.

The has to be some reason he isn't doing this. It would sure increase attendance at the restaurant. I was at the one in Nashville years ago and I was about the only person in it.

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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:00 am
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That's the thing, when you've done something your whole life and suddenly it's gone, what the hell else are you going to do? Watch TV? Maybe he could do some sort of gig where he just plays one place like a theater or club and just have people come see him, so he doesn't have to do a ton of traveling and just chill out. I guess it probably isn't financially feasible, though.

The entire city of Bransom, Missouri was built on that premise--older performers opening theaters where they perform, in some cases with multiple opening or support acts. People come from all over the world to see them; they don't have to travel, and they set their own schedule as to how often they perform.

I think this would be a brilliant plan--play 1-3 times a week at his club in Memphis or New York (someplace with enough tourist traffic to make it a part of the destination); he could foster other up-and-comers or invite other older performers to open for him or perform with him.

I have read from several sources that he is financially supporting a large number of relatives and friends, and that curtailing his touring would remove some of those individuals' livelihoods. Those people need to start making a Plan B, because Plan BB is coming to a close--and if his health continues to decrease, it will come to a close even faster.

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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:44 am
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I have read from several sources that he is financially supporting a large number of relatives and friends, and that curtailing his touring would remove some of those individuals' livelihoods. Those people need to start making a Plan B, because Plan BB is coming to a close--and if his health continues to decrease, it will come to a close even faster.

I didn't want to go there however, given that you've opened the door, it's no secret that he's sowed his wild oats in his early years and can lay claim [no pun intended] to several, what are now termed 'baby mommas', and the off-spring thereof. As you suggest, entitlement entourages have a habit of arising from these professional's endeavors and develop dependent lives of their own.
The plan BB you refer to may ultimately take the form of legal battles as to legitimate claims to his estate, the net worth of which is yet to be determined.

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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:35 pm
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CPL wrote:
That's the thing, when you've done something your whole life and suddenly it's gone, what the hell else are you going to do? Watch TV? Maybe he could do some sort of gig where he just plays one place like a theater or club and just have people come see him, so he doesn't have to do a ton of traveling and just chill out. I guess it probably isn't financially feasible, though.

The entire city of Bransom, Missouri was built on that premise--older performers opening theaters where they perform, in some cases with multiple opening or support acts. People come from all over the world to see them; they don't have to travel, and they set their own schedule as to how often they perform.

I think this would be a brilliant plan--play 1-3 times a week at his club in Memphis or New York (someplace with enough tourist traffic to make it a part of the destination); he could foster other up-and-comers or invite other older performers to open for him or perform with him.

I have read from several sources that he is financially supporting a large number of relatives and friends, and that curtailing his touring would remove some of those individuals' livelihoods. Those people need to start making a Plan B, because Plan BB is coming to a close--and if his health continues to decrease, it will come to a close even faster.


Yeah, that's where I got the idea about that. I can't remember off the top of my head the group or artist that has that, but it was related to country music.

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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:38 pm
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Just read this news about that gig in St. Louis: http://www.nme.com/news/bb-king/76753

He apologised about the show and said he forgot to take his diabetes medication. I guess that's what happened to him.

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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 5:33 am
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Mr. B. B. King. The legend ... Saw him tonight for the first time. ...
    Great thread, jmr986. :!:

    I too wish I'd seen him then but I was thrilled to see him on stage two years ago. What made the experience special was being able to share it with my son who is a huge fan.

    It saddens me to read the negative comments about a man who has devoted his life to the Blues and given so much to so many over the years. As ZZDoc said, it's a matter of respect. Yes there was some rambling and yes there were a few sour notes, but this did not in any way diminish the thrill of the experience for me or my son. God bless you, BB!

    Cheers!~
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 5:17 pm
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Amazing you did get to see the Legend as well as "Lucille" . . .

I would love to see Paul McCartney here in Atlanta . . . but gosh . . . the price of the tickets are really high!


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I was lucky enough to see BB King at the Nassau Coliseum in '75. Killer show!!! One that I will remember always. I have also seen some aging performers who just didn't have "it" anymore. I was still glad I saw the shows but left feeling kind sad, not for me but for the younger members of the crowd who never saw some of these guys in their prime. I hate for them to base their opinion of that performer on something that wasn't, and couldn't be their best work. Age takes a toll on everybody and everything. That being said I still go see some of the elder statesmen of rock and blues, mostly just to pay my respects in my own way and remember better days.
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