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Post subject: What exactly are characteristic of classic rock
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 5:28 pm
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I'm just curious. Where the amps back in the 1960's different? I also notice people saying the single coil pickups are suitable for classic rock. Why is that?


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Post subject: Re: What exactly are characteristic of classic rock
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 5:39 pm
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James2244 wrote:
I also notice people saying the single coil pickups are suitable for classic rock. Why is that?

Because a lot of classic rock was played with single coil pickups.
(And a lot with humbuckers as well)

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Post subject: Re: What exactly are characteristic of classic rock
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 5:56 pm
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You can't play classic rock - it's not a genre. It's actual album rock hits from the 60's to 80s, regardless of subgenre.
You can play the melodies, but that doesn't make it classic rock.

Led Zeppelin's Kashmir is classic rock. Jeff Buckley's version isn't. And neither are live concert versions done by Led Zeppelin.

Single coil pickups have nothing to do with it. If I were to guess, there's probably a slight overweight of humbuckers on the guitar parts of classic rock songs. But that's irrelevant.


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Post subject: Re: What exactly are characteristic of classic rock
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 6:00 pm
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Here's an example with single coils.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... nyJpHAUvDw


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Classic rock is a label created by radio. If you've a guitar and amp, pick any…with right chords and rhythm, you can play it. Whatever it is.


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Drubbing wrote:
Classic rock is a label created by radio.


And record companies. As are all "music genres".

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Post subject: Re: What exactly are characteristic of classic rock
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 9:12 pm
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So .... if it's just a label for a certain kind of music which was created by radio ... if I play the radio ... and it's a classic rock station ..... wouldn't I be playing classic rock?

Eat your heart out, arth1.
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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 9:27 pm
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So .... if it's just a label for a certain kind of music which was created by radio ... if I play the radio ... and it's a classic rock station ..... wouldn't I be playing classic rock?

Eat your heart out, arth1.
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To nitpick, you don't play the radio any more than you play the TV. :wink:

But anyhow, what I meant was that you cannot play Classic Rock on a guitar. Not even Eric Clapton can do that, unless he has a time traveling device.


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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 10:23 pm
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arth1 wrote:
BMW-KTM wrote:
So .... if it's just a label for a certain kind of music which was created by radio ... if I play the radio ... and it's a classic rock station ..... wouldn't I be playing classic rock?

Eat your heart out, arth1.
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To nitpick, you don't play the radio any more than you play the TV. :wink:

But anyhow, what I meant was that you cannot play Classic Rock on a guitar. Not even Eric Clapton can do that, unless he has a time traveling device.

What you are saying makes no sense. Anybody that play rock music from the 60s, 70s, and early 80s would be playing classic rock. Its music rock music from a time period.


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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 11:09 pm
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That's kinda what I was driving at, in a roundabout way. I don't understand that logic either.

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Post subject: Re: What exactly are characteristic of classic rock
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 11:33 pm
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That's kinda what I was driving at, in a roundabout way. I don't understand that logic either.


+1

I'm with you guys. Rock music I played some forty or fifty years ago when it was new is now labeled and generally acknowledged as "classic rock". And I continue to play such music today, using pretty much the same type of equipment I did a half century ago. Can such music be credibly played on contemporary gear? Probably. Tone and skill for the most part lies with the player -- not whatever guitar and amp he happens to play. Can modern rock be played on vintage equipment? This answer may be less unequivocal but again, the acumen of the player is likely paramount to a successful outcome.

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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 11:46 pm
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I must play a mixture of Jazz and Funk....at least that is what I gather, as some people say that I play Junk. :o

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Post subject: Re: What exactly are characteristic of classic rock
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 11:51 pm
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I must play a mixture of Jazz and Funk....at least that is what I gather, as some people say that I play Junk. :o


+1 I like that response. :mrgreen:

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Post subject: Re: What exactly are characteristic of classic rock
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 6:35 am
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tbazzone wrote:
arth1 wrote:
But anyhow, what I meant was that you cannot play Classic Rock on a guitar. Not even Eric Clapton can do that, unless he has a time traveling device.

What you are saying makes no sense. Anybody that play rock music from the 60s, 70s, and early 80s would be playing classic rock. Its music rock music from a time period.


No, it's rock hits recorded in that period.
It's not the song that is Classic Rock, it's the recording.
A cover version is not Classic Rock, unless the cover was done in the 60s-80s, and the cover itself became a hit (like Clapton's version of "I Shot the Sheriff").

The criteria for whether something is Classic Rock is:
1: Is it rock?
2: Is the recording from the 60s to 80s?
3: Was that recording a hit?

Say no to any of those, and it's not Classic Rock, and won't be played on Classic Rock stations.

TL;DR: Classic Rock is not a music genre, its a radio classification/tag for specific recordings of a song.


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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 7:29 am
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arth1 wrote:
tbazzone wrote:
arth1 wrote:
But anyhow, what I meant was that you cannot play Classic Rock on a guitar. Not even Eric Clapton can do that, unless he has a time traveling device.

What you are saying makes no sense. Anybody that play rock music from the 60s, 70s, and early 80s would be playing classic rock. Its music rock music from a time period.


No, it's rock hits recorded in that period.
It's not the song that is Classic Rock, it's the recording.
A cover version is not Classic Rock, unless the cover was done in the 60s-80s, and the cover itself became a hit (like Clapton's version of "I Shot the Sheriff").

The criteria for whether something is Classic Rock is:
1: Is it rock?
2: Is the recording from the 60s to 80s?
3: Was that recording a hit?

Say no to any of those, and it's not Classic Rock, and won't be played on Classic Rock stations.

TL;DR: Classic Rock is not a music genre, its a radio classification/tag for specific recordings of a song.



I think if you are talking about radio formats then I agree. Classic Rock describes an era, not a genre.

However, some young people today see it differently. Just like there were revivals of R&B and lately, psychedelic rock (neo-Psych), there are bands out there looking to play Classic Rock as a style of music (neo-Classic Rock!?) with new, recently composed songs with the sound and feel of the '60s and '70s. Going back to James2244's original question -- What exactly are the characteristics of Classic Rock -- I confess I don't know. I grew up with it. I think I'm too close to it to dissect it. Also, since Classic Rock encompassed such a wide range of music, I'm not sure it could be done.


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