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Post subject: Amps and styles of music
Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 1:36 am
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Are there amps specifically made for each genre of music? Just curious.


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Post subject: Re: Amps and styles of music
Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 2:38 am
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I suppose the answer would be yes and no. I guess it depends what you can and want to do with the amp you have. For example, the band the Jesus and Mary Chain used a Fender Twin (which is usually known for it's clean sound) on at least their first album, Psycho Candy, which is filled with some nasty fuzz and feed back. Of course, they also used a Shin-ei Companion FY-2 pedal for that effect.

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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:12 am
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I know of one pairing that at first blush may seem mismatched and that was Roy Orbison was an endorser of Marshall amps back in the 60s and 70s but back then Marshall wasn't just associated with loud and raunchy as it is these days,but then again just about any given current Marshall can give you a good clean tone.I believe Roy's amp of choice was the 2040 model Artiste ('71-'78) which after '72 was changed to Artist.Although it looked almost identical to the 1962 model that was more commonly referred to as the Bluesbreaker,it was very different as far as innards and it was often looked upon as being anemic because it wasn't capable of putting out a raunchy tone-which no doubt was a plus for R.O..The Artiste was a very decent amp though and if you used a distortion pedal with it you could get your raunch and clean tone too.They had Celestion Greenbacks as standard issue so they did sound great but they still had the distinction of being the amp that Jim Marshall most regretted making.

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Post subject: Re: Amps and styles of music
Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:25 am
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We'll there are stereotypes, Marshall for rock/overdriven tones and Fenders for bluesy, cleaner ones.
These two are the most common, but one genre that gets amps made just for them is metal. Sure those amps sound good turned down, or clean( some of them :evil: ) but they are made with that scorching tone in mind.


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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 1:07 pm
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I know of one pairing that at first blush may seem mismatched and that was Roy Orbison was an endorser of Marshall amps back in the 60s and 70s but back then Marshall wasn't just associated with loud and raunchy as it is these days,but then again just about any given current Marshall can give you a good clean tone.

Indeed. Another example: back in the day I remember being surprised to discover Andy Summers used Marshall half-stacks for his very un-Marshall sounds.

Just goes to show, guitar amps are one kind of box we need to think outside of.

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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 3:06 pm
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Indeed. Another example: back in the day I remember being surprised to discover Andy Summers used Marshall half-stacks for his very un-Marshall sounds.


+1

I've also seen Marshall half- and full-stacks at some country venues.

Talk about blasphemy!

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Post subject: Re: Amps and styles of music
Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 3:20 pm
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There used to be an old Fort Worth bluesman I had the pleasure and privilege of jamming with early in my "playing life"...his name was U.P. Wilson, and he (along with Drummer/Singer Robert Ealey) was 1/2 of the infamous, storied and legendary "Fort Worth Boogie Chillun".
Legend and reliable sources say that U.P. was "tapping" before EVH was even born; all I know is he sounded like Albert Collins and Johnny Winter on speed--the dude could play fast, hard and clean, and then turn on a dime to take it down to a sweet, mellow and somber pitch. He made my father stand up on his chair and whistle, that's how exciting and dynamic of a player he was (my dad had also had a few beers, too, but I never saw him respond to anybody's playing like that before or since).
U.P. would take the guitar strap off and stand the instrument on a barstool, playing with one hand, while he fretted a solo; with his "free" right hand, he would take a cigarette package out of his coat pocket, tap one out, light it and start smoking...then he would get a mug of beer, start drinking it, continually fretting out the solo, non-stop, until he finished the beer.

He was electrifying.

U.P. had some personal issues, and was often without an instrument of any sort--guitar, amp, anything. Therefore, he usually showed up at these open mic nights and jams and borrowed someone else's rig--even if he was the "hosting" act!

I saw him play through a half dozen different kinds of amps and guitars--solid state, tube, solid body, thinline semi- and full-hollowbody, humbuckers, single coils, original, reissue, brand new, vintage and piece of crap--he played it all.

And he always sounded like a bluesman, because that is what he was.

I heard him play through my '72 Silverface Bassman Ten, my friend's weird little Gallien Kruger guitar amp (the size of a lunchbox, yet louder than my 4x10 Bassman), an acquaintance's Marshall JCM800 half-stack, a vintage blackface Deluxe Reverb, another jammer's solid state Acoustic amp (similar to Albert King's), the shredder dude's Fender carpet-covered H.O.T. practice amp, and he always got a blues tone--sometimes better, sometimes less better, but always in the ballpark.

Cuz that's what he was playing...with a very few exceptions, the player makes the gear sound like what genre they're playing.

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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 3:24 pm
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Cuz that's what he was playing...with a very few exceptions, the player makes the gear sound like what genre they're playing.


A trait common to all righteous players regardless of genre or gear.

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Post subject: Re: Amps and styles of music
Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 2:09 am
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guitslinger wrote:
I know of one pairing that at first blush may seem mismatched and that was Roy Orbison was an endorser of Marshall amps back in the 60s and 70s but back then Marshall wasn't just associated with loud and raunchy as it is these days,but then again just about any given current Marshall can give you a good clean tone.I believe Roy's amp of choice was the 2040 model Artiste ('71-'78) which after '72 was changed to Artist.Although it looked almost identical to the 1962 model that was more commonly referred to as the Bluesbreaker,it was very different as far as innards and it was often looked upon as being anemic because it wasn't capable of putting out a raunchy tone-which no doubt was a plus for R.O..The Artiste was a very decent amp though and if you used a distortion pedal with it you could get your raunch and clean tone too.They had Celestion Greenbacks as standard issue so they did sound great but they still had the distinction of being the amp that Jim Marshall most regretted making.


It's funny that you mentioned this about Marshall. I've just watched the DVD "Respect Yourself The Stax Records Story" and in some of the live footage Booker T and the MGs were playing through Marshalls. It looked like Donald "Duck" Dunn also had what looked like a 4x15" cab besides a 4x12" cab. His bass sounded pretty clean to me, too. Actually, it was nice and beefy. I'm sure that monster cab must have contributed to it. By the way, if you're a fan of Stax, I recommend this movie. It's pretty cool.

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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:46 pm
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Here are some fenders and marshalls on stage together sounding great:


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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 1:58 pm
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 8:06 pm
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Post subject: Re: Amps and styles of music
Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 3:30 pm
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Screamin Armadillo wrote:
Cuz that's what he was playing...with a very few exceptions, the player makes the gear sound like what genre they're playing.


A trait common to all righteous players regardless of genre or gear.

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