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Post subject: Re: Is music a young man's game?
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 12:12 am
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Well the article is partly about a different frame of mind.

I enjoy playing guitar & bass now more than I ever have.
Nobody to impress, I can play what I want, and yet I can still learn new things--and I do work on that.

No pressure, all fun.

It's cool.

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Post subject: Re: Is music a young man's game?
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:46 pm
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55 next B/day, and as long as there is air in my lungs, I'll be forming, in my head, the next biggest seller and then promptly forgetting how it went :? Ahh well back to the driving range..........FOUR...oops


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Post subject: Re: Is music a young man's game?
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:32 pm
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I guess you guys never read Uncut magazine.


Never heard of it before now. Just checked out the website. Looks really interesting.

Thanks!


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Post subject: Re: Is music a young man's game?
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:47 pm
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i would suggest that most every "creative endeavor" is a young mans game. I have numerous long LONG running podcasts and often have video projects and ideas. Getting and keeping any regular talent or co-conspirators is next to impossible at 40. I often would overbook 3-4 voice actors for my public access show just to get a bare minimum. But everyone has their own stuff going on so i never get upset about it, that is just the price of doing business.


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Post subject: Re: Is music a young man's game?
Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 5:01 pm
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No... Music is not a young man's game only... It's open for whoever wishes to go there... even folks in their 40's and up.

A lot of folks only view "Performing" and "Selling CD's" as the ONLY aspect that constitutes being a Full Time "Musician". And this aspect is NOT only for the young spuds.
This is a wrong view.
There are many avenues available for Musicians to employ themselves full time in Music.
A lot of folks simply need to open their minds... get creative... and start thinking like a Business Person about it.
Yes.... Music... is a business.

Now... unfortunately... most folks are "Idealists" and "Romantics" when it comes to music... and they generally only think of the performance/selling CD's aspect of it.
Remember.. this is just one of MANY avenues in the Music Business.

Reality:
Most people are NOT willing to do what it takes to make a living in Music. Making a living in the "Music Business" does not mean endlessly touring around the country in an Econo-Line van.... eating spaghettios out of a can... and playing for peanuts to get exposure and sell CD's out of the back of the van after the gig.
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Post subject: Re: Is music a young man's game?
Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:54 pm
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I have high respect to those musicians who pursue playing music even they are in mid 40's.

Are you trolling, insulting people here on purpose? 40s is considered young for good musicians.

Take a look at all the superstars that keep on playing until they die, whether that be in their 60s or 90s.


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Post subject: Re: Is music a young man's game?
Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 6:18 pm
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Thanks for sharing your views everybody, and keep it coming.

Whether you're seasoned pro, a musician who is working towards being one, a session player, for hire backing musician, hobbyist, teacher, student, hack, prodigy, virtuoso, some guy/girl with a guitar or whatever--music is cool.

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Post subject: Re: Is music a young man's game?
Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 6:54 pm
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I played my first paying gig in 1969 at the tender age of 15 and then continued playing until I was in my 40s and only stopped then because my back got messed up from a few work related accidents took their toll on me.I never really did stop playing in my 20s and then take a 10 or 20 year hiatus such as a lot of people have done and if not for my injuries and ongoing health issues I would still be out there gigging regularly.I have always considered myself a musician first,even when I had a day job because often when I was gigging I would sometimes clear more money in one night than I would in a week's work at my day job and sometimes even 2 week's day job pay were exceeded in one night.

Music on the whole is probably a young man's game but there are still a lot of the old guard who never considered poking the guitar case under the bed and kept playing while their girth increased and their hair fell out.The young guys gigging today could learn a wealth of knowledge from listening to the old guys.I still have a chuckle whenever I go into my usual guitar store and try out a guitar,I'll be playing something that's pretty well known but rarely played by anyone,such as "One Rainy Wish",Spanish Castle Magic","Don't Fear The Reaper" etc. and I'll notice a couple of pairs of eyes trained on my hands to see what chords I'm using or how I got a certain effect with using any effects.

As long as I have a pulse,I'll always be a musician first and foremost and if I ever get my hands back in playing order,the first thing I'm going to do is round up a group of like minded musicians to get an old farts rock band going-I already have a committed bass player lined up.

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Post subject: Re: Is music a young man's game?
Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:01 pm
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Great article. I stopped playing in groups in the 70's, and sadly stopped playing altogether for 20+ years while raising my family. I started back playing again about 6 years ago. I have a couple of friends over once a month to play. Speaking for myself, I have more fun now than ever before, with no dreams making it big. As we all know, music has no age barrier. Now in my 60's, I would not lug around my Twin Reverb anywhere. When I have to move it, I just roll it across the floor to vacuum. Moving heavy equipment is for the young musicians, or older ones with a strong back or young friends.
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Post subject: Re: Is music a young man's game?
Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 9:38 pm
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58. Play in a Heavy Rock Band that has an album out and a Country band. Practice sometimes twice a week 27 miles away. Carry my junk (AMPEG, GK, FENDER) out of the basement. Load it in the car, Gig 5 sets with the band. Tear it down, load it in the car, bring it home, put it away at 3 in the morning. I can Rock my face out or carry the bottom for the Country guys till the break of day. Been at it since I was a young kid. Played the road. Opened for big acts. Never worried about making it. Playing music is in my DNA. Did the stupid party thing when I was young , quit when I got older. I take care of two homes, 2 cars, I paint about 12 oil paintings a year, build guitars , have collections ,and other assorted hobbies etc. I don't sit on my $@! watching TV or drinking booze. Young mans game? There's all kinds of situations out there. No way I'm going to live in a van with burnouts though. :lol:


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Post subject: Re: Is music a young man's game?
Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:55 am
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I only bought my very first bass guitar last month, and had my first lesson at that time.

I am 46.

While I would have loved to have 20-30 years of playing behind me, I find I am at the exact perfect time to be learning. I get the same excited feeling and the chills down my spine every time I pick the guitar up. (Of course that is just me, everyone is different).


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Post subject: Re: Is music a young man's game?
Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 11:56 am
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Music helps define you. It kept me out of trouble when i was young. Practicing instead of hanging out. It kee p s my brain active by always learning something new. Be i t a new instrument, teaching, learning pa basics or how to program a drum machine. The key for me was finding something to do with it. Now its an old friend that i count on when work or life gets tuff. One II can celebrate with when im happy. I went and got a multi channel recorder and im having a ball making demos. ( drum,bass,keys,vocals,guitar,ets) and its all me! Shure some trackssuck but thats the fun of it. Im in my mid 50's. I just saw a great blues band and every member older than me and a part time band at that due to WORK. (I asked). Soo ,i called a friend and were starting an acoustic duo band. 30 songs downand counting. So grab yourself bythe $@! and do something with your music before your nurse needs to hand you aplay guitar in th home. I cant rock anymore but i can still roll!

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Post subject: Re: Is music a young man's game?
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 12:07 am
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It is a great outlet.
A good stress release, a cool thing to be able to do when you're sad, and a great way to celebrate when you're happy.

And when I play guitar or bass I feel young again--at least in my mind.

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Post subject: Re: Is music a young man's game?
Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:29 am
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This almost the opposite of me. $, women, fame would all be welcomed, but if ahead of time I was told I would have NONE of them- it wouldn't affect me one iota.
I play guitar (a lot) because I have to. It's who I am.
Presently, I'm learning Bach Sonatas and Partitas. I try to play them with uber feeling as opposed to fast and impressive (like P. Gilbert). They were meant to be dances, but no-one dances to them anymore. They are strictly listening pieces.

Oops- I wandered.
My point is that I play daily and passionately, regardless of where it takes me.
I have become very bored od rock music.
I am a snob- I know.

anyone else as wacked as me out there? :)


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Post subject: Re: Is music a young man's game?
Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:33 am
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arth1 wrote:
freddieclearance wrote:
I have high respect to those musicians who pursue playing music even they are in mid 40's.

Are you trolling, insulting people here on purpose? 40s is considered young for good musicians.

Take a look at all the superstars that keep on playing until they die, whether that be in their 60s or 90s.


I agree.
Unfortunately, in America music has really come to mean just rock/pop music. I yearn for a society which places value and respect on lifetime players, like Indian and Persian music.


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