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Post subject: TS 10 Tube Screamer Classic
Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 7:36 am
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Can someone tell me where this pedal fits in to the infamous Tube Screamer line?
A non guitar playing friend has given this to me on long term loan.
I am looking to find out the good, the bad and the ugly on this pedal.
Maybe even what it's worth too, just in case something happens!

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Post subject: Re: TS 10 Tube Screamer Classic
Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:18 am
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I have the same pedal on a long term loan too. I'm giving it back, not because it's horrible, but because I built better ones and don't need it. They aren't worth a bunch last time I looked. The TS 9 and 8008 are the one's worth some bucks. For me it was just okay, not great, not bad, just not my thing. I never saw what the big deal was about the Tube Screamer. JMO, YMMV

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Post subject: Re: TS 10 Tube Screamer Classic
Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 9:15 am
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I have the same pedal on a long term loan too. I'm giving it back, not because it's horrible, but because I built better ones and don't need it. They aren't worth a bunch last time I looked. The TS 9 and 8008 are the one's worth some bucks. For me it was just okay, not great, not bad, just not my thing. I never saw what the big deal was about the Tube Screamer. JMO, YMMV

I think that most of the hype is hero worship. Jimi Hendrix and SRV used tube screamers, and there are people who think that by using similar equipment to their heroes, the skills will magically rub off.

I'm pretty sure JH/SRV/EC/EVH and most of them picked the effect boxes they did because they were available, and not because of comprehensive testing of everything on the market.


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Post subject: Re: TS 10 Tube Screamer Classic
Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 9:24 am
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I am a Tube Screamer user and enthusiast...I have owned a (very early) TS9 reissue for many years, and it hasn't left my pedalboard for more than a week at a time. It's huge a part of my personal tone.

While the TS808 and TS9 are the "classic" collectible pedals, I haven't ever understood the red-headed-step-child status of the TS10. No, it doesn't sound like a TS9 (which it replaced); it's got a harder edge to it, a bit more metallic and less warm than it's predecessor (I would describe it as TS9's little brother, who wears long hair and a spiked leather wrist band).

And that's not to say it's bad--I could see a player who's into hard rock or metal using the TS10 very happily, if they knew of these proclivities.

I have also owned a TS5 Soundtank (the cheapest of the various TS models, and ironically one of the closest in tone to the TS9), a TS10, and a TS7. Since I'm a Texas Roadhouse player (blues+rock+outlaw country), the TS9 worked best for me.

I sold the TS10 to a "classic metal" (Sabbath, Iron Maiden, etc) player, and it was a nice addition to his sonic pallette (the last time I saw him, two years ago, he was still using it extensively)

I gave away the TS5 (Soundtank) to a kid who showed a lot of talent and promise in his playing, and sold the TS7 to a bandmate who liked it more than I did.

There isn't anything in the world wrong with the TS10--just don't expect it to sound exactly like a TS9.

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Post subject: Re: TS 10 Tube Screamer Classic
Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 9:26 am
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arth1 wrote:
63supro wrote:
I have the same pedal on a long term loan too. I'm giving it back, not because it's horrible, but because I built better ones and don't need it. They aren't worth a bunch last time I looked. The TS 9 and 8008 are the one's worth some bucks. For me it was just okay, not great, not bad, just not my thing. I never saw what the big deal was about the Tube Screamer. JMO, YMMV

I think that most of the hype is hero worship. Jimi Hendrix and SRV used tube screamers, and there are people who think that by using similar equipment to their heroes, the skills will magically rub off.

I'm pretty sure JH/SRV/EC/EVH and most of them picked the effect boxes they did because they were available, and not because of comprehensive testing of everything on the market.

Hendrix couldn't have used a Tube Screamer...they weren't introduced until 1979, eight years after his death.

Also, SRV used a TS808, a TS9, and a TS10 at several points in his career (and sometimes more than one in series with the other), so obviously he was not just "using what was available"--he was trying different things.

I'll admit SRV influenced some of my early instrument choices, but I never have been a Vaughan-abee sychophant. Some of his effects, instruments, amps and setup choices didn't/wouldn't work for me, period. (I play more like his brother anyway...in spite of the fact JLV's rig is nothing like mine).

Early on, I (like many of us) was under the impression that certain tools might magically unlock some ability...of course, that's wrong, but...

There are effects, pickups, instruments, amps, and accessories that make us more comfortable, and this make us play better. Yes, the tone is in our hands, but we can't entirely discount the influence the equipment has on us.

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Post subject: Re: TS 10 Tube Screamer Classic
Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 9:44 am
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63supro wrote:
I have the same pedal on a long term loan too. I'm giving it back, not because it's horrible, but because I built better ones and don't need it. They aren't worth a bunch last time I looked. The TS 9 and 8008 are the one's worth some bucks. For me it was just okay, not great, not bad, just not my thing. I never saw what the big deal was about the Tube Screamer. JMO, YMMV

I think ANY pedal is a highly personal tool, just like specific pickups, guitars and amps.

I love to hear Lace Sensor pickups in other people's guitars--Clapton, Beck, Buddy Guy--but every time I played one, the tone didn't work for me...I love the sound of a humbucker-loaded Les Paul guitar--I love Early Fleetwood Mac with Peter Green, and BillyGibbons is one of my favorite players ever in the history of forever---but I just haven't found one that "works" for me.

Likewise, the TubeScreamer is a popular tool that many people have found lacking, not necessarily because it sucks, but because it doesn't "click" with the rest of their rig, their playing style, and (perhaps) their expectations.

I'm not surprised when somebody says, "Despite it's popularity, I don't like such-and-such pedal or such-and-such effect." I have owned a Boss DS-1, and I hated it--it just didn't work for me. I gave it to my drummer (he's an occasional guitarist), and it worked perfectly for him--he loved it. I detest chorus (especially on an acoustic) and yet I love other modulation effects, such as tremolo/vibrato/whatever, Uni-Vibes, Leslie's and Phase 90's.

It boils down to whatever works for the individual player.

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Post subject: Re: TS 10 Tube Screamer Classic
Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 9:55 am
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Screamin' Armadillo wrote:
arth1 wrote:
63supro wrote:
I have the same pedal on a long term loan too. I'm giving it back, not because it's horrible, but because I built better ones and don't need it. They aren't worth a bunch last time I looked. The TS 9 and 8008 are the one's worth some bucks. For me it was just okay, not great, not bad, just not my thing. I never saw what the big deal was about the Tube Screamer. JMO, YMMV

I think that most of the hype is hero worship. Jimi Hendrix and SRV used tube screamers, and there are people who think that by using similar equipment to their heroes, the skills will magically rub off.

I'm pretty sure JH/SRV/EC/EVH and most of them picked the effect boxes they did because they were available, and not because of comprehensive testing of everything on the market.

Hendrix couldn't have used a Tube Screamer...they weren't introduced until after his death.



This is so true. Hendrix was using a Fuzz Face.

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Post subject: Re: TS 10 Tube Screamer Classic
Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:00 am
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Screamin' Armadillo wrote:
63supro wrote:
I have the same pedal on a long term loan too. I'm giving it back, not because it's horrible, but because I built better ones and don't need it. They aren't worth a bunch last time I looked. The TS 9 and 8008 are the one's worth some bucks. For me it was just okay, not great, not bad, just not my thing. I never saw what the big deal was about the Tube Screamer. JMO, YMMV

I think ANY pedal is a highly personal tool, just like specific pickups, guitars and amps.

I love to hear Lace Sensor pickups in other people's guitars--Clapton, Beck, Buddy Guy--but every time I played one, the tone didn't work for me...I love the sound of a humbucker-loaded Les Paul guitar--I love Early Fleetwood Mac with Peter Green, and BillyGibbons is one of my favorite players ever in the history of forever---but I just haven't found one that "works" for me.

Likewise, the TubeScreamer is a popular tool that many people have found lacking, not necessarily because it sucks, but because it doesn't "click" with the rest of their rig, their playing style, and (perhaps) their expectations.

I'm not surprised when somebody says, "Despite it's popularity, I don't like such-and-such pedal or such-and-such effect." I have owned a Boss DS-1, and I hated it--it just didn't work for me. I gave it to my drummer (he's an occasional guitarist), and it worked perfectly for him--he loved it. I detest chorus (especially on an acoustic) and yet I love other modulation effects, such as tremolo/vibrato/whatever, Uni-Vibes, Leslie's and Phase 90's.

It boils down to whatever works for the individual player.


I Agree SA. I also fall in and out of love with pedals too. I have an old Fender Fuzz Wah with the old transistor fuzz circuit. The pedal is huge and heavy, but sounds pretty cool. I build most of my own now. BYOC has a TS clone that has some twists besides the old 8008 chip. I'm thinking about building one. If I don't like it I can always sell it.

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Post subject: Re: TS 10 Tube Screamer Classic
Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:08 am
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Screamin' Armadillo wrote:
Hendrix couldn't have used a Tube Screamer...they weren't introduced until 1979, eight years after his death.

Oops - I was thinking of the Fuzz Face and Vox Wah. Both of which I think are rather mediocre by today's standards, but are still seen on every other pedal board.

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There are effects, pickups, instruments, amps, and accessories that make us more comfortable, and this make us play better. Yes, the tone is in our hands, but we can't entire discount the influence the equipment has on us.

Absolutely. But in many cases I question the reasoning behind deciding what's better. Equipment doesn't automatically become great because some great player used them. The good ones had talent enough to make crap sound good, and there's nothing magical about what they used.
But hey, if it works for someone, great! Personally, I find the TS9 rather "meh", but if someone else loves theirs, and play better as a result, good for them!


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Post subject: Re: TS 10 Tube Screamer Classic
Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:10 am
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63supro wrote:
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63supro wrote:
I have the same pedal on a long term loan too. I'm giving it back, not because it's horrible, but because I built better ones and don't need it. They aren't worth a bunch last time I looked. The TS 9 and 8008 are the one's worth some bucks. For me it was just okay, not great, not bad, just not my thing. I never saw what the big deal was about the Tube Screamer. JMO, YMMV

I think ANY pedal is a highly personal tool, just like specific pickups, guitars and amps.

I love to hear Lace Sensor pickups in other people's guitars--Clapton, Beck, Buddy Guy--but every time I played one, the tone didn't work for me...I love the sound of a humbucker-loaded Les Paul guitar--I love Early Fleetwood Mac with Peter Green, and BillyGibbons is one of my favorite players ever in the history of forever---but I just haven't found one that "works" for me.

Likewise, the TubeScreamer is a popular tool that many people have found lacking, not necessarily because it sucks, but because it doesn't "click" with the rest of their rig, their playing style, and (perhaps) their expectations.

I'm not surprised when somebody says, "Despite it's popularity, I don't like such-and-such pedal or such-and-such effect." I have owned a Boss DS-1, and I hated it--it just didn't work for me. I gave it to my drummer (he's an occasional guitarist), and it worked perfectly for him--he loved it. I detest chorus (especially on an acoustic) and yet I love other modulation effects, such as tremolo/vibrato/whatever, Uni-Vibes, Leslie's and Phase 90's.

It boils down to whatever works for the individual player.


I Agree SA. I also fall in and out of love with pedals too. I have an old Fender Fuzz Wah with the old transistor fuzz circuit. The pedal is huge and heavy, but sounds pretty cool. I build most of my own now. BYOC has a TS clone that has some twists besides the old 8008 chip. I'm thinking about building one. If I don't like it I can always sell it.

Post a sound sample if you do--I love to hear DIY/BYO pedals...

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Post subject: Re: TS 10 Tube Screamer Classic
Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:37 am
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arth1 wrote:
Screamin' Armadillo wrote:
There are effects, pickups, instruments, amps, and accessories that make us more comfortable, and this make us play better. Yes, the tone is in our hands, but we can't entirely discount the influence the equipment has on us.

Absolutely. But in many cases I question the reasoning behind deciding what's better. Equipment doesn't automatically become great because some great player used them. The good ones had talent enough to make crap sound good, and there's nothing magical about what they used.

I agree whole-heartedly. I have seen some really good bands playing with low-end instruments, and some cruddy ones with rigs that would have turned the heads of a pro-level touring musician.

I also think it's funny when a person thinks, "'This' guitar will make me sound like my hero!"
If they are getting a Telecaster, will they sound like Muddy Waters, Keith Richards, Roy Buchanan, James Burton or Brad Paisley? It's the pilot, not the plane...

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But hey, if it works for someone, great! Personally, I find the TS9 rather "meh", but if someone else loves theirs, and play better as a result, good for them!

That's the way I feel--I dislike a buddy of mine's rig (which includes a solid-state Roland JC120 amp and a Boss DS-1 which are amongst my least favorite amps and pedals in the world)...but dang, he sounds good using it.

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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:45 am
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I wasn't sure which model he had when he offered it up. of course I was hoping for a TS 9 or 808, but whatevs. I played a bit with it. Got a decent tone on my Ultimate Chorus (solid state), but I'm sure the tone will change somewhat on my Traynor tube amp.
Could it be said that it is a little more distortion than overdrive?

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I fall into the "meh" category when it comes to TS9/808 pedals. I find them to be too opaque and muddy for my taste. A little on the boomy side too. They have a useful tone but not part of my everyday sound. I also feel the same about the Lace Sensors. With my hands and my rig they just don't do it for me.

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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:20 am
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yodacaster wrote:
Could it be said that it is a little more distortion than overdrive?

That's that harder edge I was talking about. The TS10 is edging into "distortion pedal" territory, while still keeping a few toes in the "overdrive pedal" pool.

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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:23 am
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Everything you ever wanted to know about the various TubeScreamer Pedals:

http://www.premierguitar.com/articles/Green_Giant_History_of_the_Tube_Screamer

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