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Do guitars that heavly worn make better instruments?
Yes 21%  21%  [ 6 ]
No 59%  59%  [ 17 ]
I'm not sure 21%  21%  [ 6 ]
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Post subject: Re: Well-loveed and well-preserved guitars
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 4:25 pm
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I suppose it depends on the guitar. I think I'd rather have a brand new one, untouched, unless it was something special that caught my attention. There are a few of those I've come across over the years. I certainly wouldn't pay extra money for something that looks beat up, such as those Fender relic guitars. I'm going to pay $4000 for a guitar that somebody took a chain and sandpaper too? I can do that myself for free. :roll:


That whole relicing thing got started because famous people were coming into the Custom Shop and saying, "This guitar is great, but it doesn't have that 'broken-in' feel."


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Post subject: Re: Well-loveed and well-preserved guitars
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 4:31 pm
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Yeah, it's called playing it, then it will be broken in. The funny thing is that they started doing that to guitars in the $300 price range, or so. Stuff like Axl and LTD lower price models.

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Post subject: Re: Well-loveed and well-preserved guitars
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 6:17 pm
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My oldest guitar is The Venerable Black No. 1, a 1986 MIJ Strat. In the 27 years I've owned it, it has just one scratch, but the frets are worn down mighty low as it was my ONLY guitar for years. Today, it enjoys semi-retirement.

Just how much does a re-fret job cost these days?


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Post subject: Re: Well-loveed and well-preserved guitars
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 6:33 pm
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My oldest guitar is The Venerable Black No. 1, a 1986 MIJ Strat. In the 27 years I've owned it, it has just one scratch, but the frets are worn down mighty low as it was my ONLY guitar for years. Today, it enjoys semi-retirement.

Just how much does a re-fret job cost these days?


I was quoted $400 for stainless, but that's with me being a regular at my local store. Average price I've seen is between $500-$700.

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Post subject: Re: Well-loveed and well-preserved guitars
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 6:43 pm
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The one and only answer should be "it depends". Some guitars are good, they were good new, played the $@!& out of and are worn out and still good. Some guitars sucked, and they'll still suck worn out.


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(at my age the word 'depends' startles me lol, couldn't figure out how astronauts solved that concern :oops: maybe well-loved and well-preserved as best you can is a alternative is a way of saying "it dep..." :lol:

Kurt Wilson will refret my Stratopartster for a deuce and a quarter or $225. 8)

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Post subject: Re: Well-loveed and well-preserved guitars
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:27 pm
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This is what 80 years of play wear should look like.

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I'm the second owner of this 1933 National Triolian. It has 100% original parts and not a single dent. As you can see the only wear is to the finish. The "duco" wasn't a great success on these. The galvanised grey layer didn't seem to take the paint well. Note the heavily worn areas have exposed steel which has rusted.

I believe it was purchased new as a gift for the previous owner (aged 14) ,a lady who went on to play it throughout her career as a performer and teacher well into her nineties. To survive in this state after so much use, the guitar has obviously been well cared for and maintained. It will always be my favorite guitar.

Does the worn finish give it Mojo?
Silly question.

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Post subject: Re: Well-loveed and well-preserved guitars
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 10:36 pm
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This is what 80 years of play wear should look like.

Indeed.


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Post subject: Re: Well-loveed and well-preserved guitars
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:01 am
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Most of the guitars or basses I buy these days are from pawnshops. I figure I find a killer deal and buy sometimes a 1/4 of the going rate, and I'll put some money in it to get it workable and playable. Here are a couple of well worn instruments I picked up in pawnshops.

'77 Gibson LP Deluxe: (paid $750 w/ OHSC last year in 2013)
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'74 Jazz Bass: (paid $64.64 for it in 2008)
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Here's another pawnshop guitar that I got a KILLER deal on. It's not worn
like most I pick up,and I didn't have to pay the $2400? Gibson is asking for a
new one. I got this 9/10 condition 1989 Gibson LP Heritage Cherry Sunburst LP Standard w/ OHSC for $1075 out the door. I put money down to hold it 2 days ago and should be getting it out in a week or 2.
If it would have been played with all the bruises and scars, I would have gotten a way better deal on it and would have been just as happy. :)
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Post subject: Re: Well-loveed and well-preserved guitars
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:13 am
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Nice!


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Post subject: Re: Well-loveed and well-preserved guitars
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:04 am
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Most of the guitars or basses I buy these days are from pawnshops.

You clearly have some great pawn shops in your area. $750 and $1000 for those two Les Pauls is ridiculous. I am always hitting pawn shops and never see anything like that. Well done!!!!!

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Post subject: Re: Well-loveed and well-preserved guitars
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 1:20 pm
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I might be a minority here, but I'm a bit of a fanatic about the way my guitars look.
Yes, I realize over time that they will get worn and dull, but I am going to keep them looking as good as possible for as long as possible.

Normal wear can always be expected, and that tells a "used" buyer it's been a quality instrument with some dependable longevity.
Dings happen, scratches happen.
Abuse and neglect will tell on themselves, though, and I'd walk away from those.


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Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:10 pm
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Fender Aficionado wrote:
Most of the guitars or basses I buy these days are from pawnshops. I figure I find a killer deal and buy sometimes a 1/4 of the going rate, and I'll put some money in it to get it workable and playable. Here are a couple of well worn instruments I picked up in pawnshops.

'77 Gibson LP Deluxe: (paid $750 w/ OHSC last year in 2013)
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'74 Jazz Bass: (paid $64.64 for it in 2008)
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Here's another pawnshop guitar that I got a KILLER deal on. It's not worn
like most I pick up,and I didn't have to pay the $2400? Gibson is asking for a
new one. I got this 9/10 condition 1989 Gibson LP Heritage Cherry Sunburst LP Standard w/ OHSC for $1075 out the door. I put money down to hold it 2 days ago and should be getting it out in a week or 2.
If it would have been played with all the bruises and scars, I would have gotten a way better deal on it and would have been just as happy. :)
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I don't know where you are buying, but I want to be there. I've never been able to find vinatage instruments in a pawn shop. If you're lucky, you might find an American made Strat or low end Gibson, but usually it's Jackson, BC Rich, and their ilk.

I live in MD, near DC and we do have one shop that's sells only used musical instruments. It's called, "Atomic Music." They are a good bunch of guys and I've gotten some good deals from them.


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Post subject: Re: Well-loveed and well-preserved guitars
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:47 pm
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A guitar is simply a tool for making music, what it looks like is meaningless as long as it plays well.
Most guitars that are found used which may be considered well preserved are that way because someone bought them new and did not stick with the leaning to play.

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Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:57 pm
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boxbang wrote:
This is what 80 years of play wear should look like.

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I'm the second owner of this 1933 National Triolian. It has 100% original parts and not a single dent. As you can see the only wear is to the finish. The "duco" wasn't a great success on these. The galvanised grey layer didn't seem to take the paint well. Note the heavily worn areas have exposed steel which has rusted.

I believe it was purchased new as a gift for the previous owner (aged 14) ,a lady who went on to play it throughout her career as a performer and teacher well into her nineties. To survive in this state after so much use, the guitar has obviously been well cared for and maintained. It will always be my favorite guitar.

Does the worn finish give it Mojo?
Silly question.

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Goodonya ...Mark.


Nice guitar. 8) I love those guitars. Is it green, or that's just the lighting?

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Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:00 pm
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Fender Aficionado wrote:
Most of the guitars or basses I buy these days are from pawnshops. I figure I find a killer deal and buy sometimes a 1/4 of the going rate, and I'll put some money in it to get it workable and playable. Here are a couple of well worn instruments I picked up in pawnshops.

'77 Gibson LP Deluxe: (paid $750 w/ OHSC last year in 2013)
Image
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'74 Jazz Bass: (paid $64.64 for it in 2008)
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Here's another pawnshop guitar that I got a KILLER deal on. It's not worn
like most I pick up,and I didn't have to pay the $2400? Gibson is asking for a
new one. I got this 9/10 condition 1989 Gibson LP Heritage Cherry Sunburst LP Standard w/ OHSC for $1075 out the door. I put money down to hold it 2 days ago and should be getting it out in a week or 2.
If it would have been played with all the bruises and scars, I would have gotten a way better deal on it and would have been just as happy. :)
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I'd say you get pretty good deals on guitars.

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