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Post subject: Re: Where I'm at . . .
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 10:09 am
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Quite. yes, well said.

Sorry guys a little overboard didn't mean to scare you. I'm a little bipolar so my apologies. I just gotta learn to shut up and let others do what they want. However I'm glad you checked out Pebber Brown, I hope others do too because the guy knows his stuff. He is a "real guitarist."

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Post subject: Re: Where I'm at . . .
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 3:37 pm
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omar59 wrote:
arth1 wrote:
Spending the same amount of time with a guitar lesson book is going to be way more useful.



And a lot more boring!! I tried the lesson books, tapes, DVD's...I was bored out of my mind in no time. I understand where you are coming from, but a lot of people do not want to be professional guitar players. I want to have fun, its a hobby, maybe play for family and friends or at a party, that's about it. I have seen other people who have already learned guitar, try Rocksmith and hate it. I understand why, it's because it's not for you. From your description is does not sound like you stuck with it for very long. Yes, it starts out with random notes, but as you improve it adds more notes and then works up to cords. It has lessons in game format that teach cords and scales. It also does something that taking a lesson for a hour once a week cannot do, it listens every time you play and if you start doing something wrong it lets you know right then, not after you practiced it wrong for days. The bottom line is everyone learns different, we are all individuals and there is not just one way to learn. What works best for you may not work for someone else. I have gone the traditional route learning drums and piano and I never had a teacher that could keep me interested. Rocksmith has worked for me, it may not work for some people, but I just think that telling a new player not try something is not the best thing to do. Try everything, and see what works for you. I will say this, after learning what I did from Rocksmith I am now interested in theory and how songs are put together and I am looking for a teacher. :D


Rocksmith 2014 is perhaps the most FUN way to learn to play by yourself... I stand by that! I am already an intermediate+ player and I can drudge through fakebooks and even have the Hal Leonard books with the SD cards that go with my G-DEC (G-DEC is another immensely fun way to learn guitar!) But plugging my guitar into my PS3 plugged into HiFi speakers and rocking "Detroit Rock City" is immeasurably fun and satisfying. Rocksmith also features a fantastic riff repeater program and a session program that lets you choose any style, any mode, any progression and all sorts of accompanying instruments and jam out at any tempo with or without key changes.

The key here to both Rocksmith and G-DEC is the ability to jam with accompaniment and work on real songs in their entirety. Which I think is essential to maintaining interest and enthusiasm in learning.

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Post subject: Re: Where I'm at . . .
Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:15 am
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omar59 wrote:
It has lessons in game format that teach cords and scales.

You can see a short intro video, but then it goes back into the game interface for when you actually have to play, without note names, tempo notation, scales or anything but the moving colored bars. You can't even see the video at the same time - you have to go back to the start. It's like watching a Youtube video, then playing Simon Says.

omar59 wrote:
It also does something that taking a lesson for a hour once a week cannot do, it listens every time you play and if you start doing something wrong it lets you know right then, not after you practiced it wrong for days.

That is one thing it does not do. It only tells if and when you hit a note, not how you managed to get that hit. It is blind to errors that an instructor spots and can correct, because all it cares about is "did the expected note come at the expected time?" You can consistently do it wrong, and it won't tell you as long as you score that hit.

And when it detects that you do have problems hitting a certain passage, it doesn't then make sure that you get exercises for just that problem. Instead of coming up with exercises that addresses your difficulties, it leads you away by presenting you with things it calculates that you can play.

An instructor can see that you mute the 1st or 3rd string when you play a D because your finger is angled wrong, and can tell you how to fix that. Rocksmith can't. It will just note lots of misses, and avoid the chord and every other chord at that level altogether, marking it as too difficult for you. It most definitely won't teach you alternatives, like playing the D at 5th to 7th frets, or give you exercises with the D-shape chord in various positions until you have mastered it.

omar59 wrote:
The bottom line is everyone learns different, we are all individuals and there is not just one way to learn. What works best for you may not work for someone else.

True, but I have not met anyone who was taught by Rocksmith or similar that is capable of joining a jam, or picking up a sheet and start rehearsing. Do those people exist?


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Post subject: Re: Where I'm at . . .
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 8:57 am
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Karl Hungus wrote:
I played piano as a child because I was essentially forced to. That went pretty much nowhere. Later, I played trumpet for a couple years in high school, essentially just for s&g. Again, that went nowhere.

With the piano, I was too young to really be into music very much, so the idea of learning songs I liked to make it fun was somewhat of an abstraction. And with the trumpet . . . well, none of the music I actually listened incorporated much in the way of brass instruments. So in both cases, there really wasn't much for me to aspire to. :-)

( My band teacher played clarinet; I always thought it was a beautiful instrument in the right hands.)


Yes electric guitar is where it's at. No other instrument comes close. Good times await. 8)


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