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Post subject: Re: Boss blues driver versus Ibanez Tubescreamer
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:01 pm
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truebluefliplover wrote:
I went back to Guiter Denter and tried out the pedals again. I ended up purchasing the BD-2 along with a Polytune 2 Tuner pedal and a Pedaltrain Jr pedal board to go along with a few pedals that I already have(I have no self control).

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What is this "self control" of which you speak? :P

...and you know: PICS OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN!! Post a pic of your pedalboard as soon as you can...


S-Armadillo, I am not really sure of the self control. My wife says I am supposed to exercise it but I she might as well be talking to a wall...

The Pedalboard I had to order and it is supposed to be here Friday. After I figure out the "correct" order to put the pedals, I will post a picture. I may be 55 years old but I am a little excited to put it together and play around. I guess I will always be a big kid at heart.


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Post subject: Re: Boss blues driver versus Ibanez Tubescreamer
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:02 pm
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What other pedals are you running? (new thread material: "proper pedal order")...

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Post subject: Re: Boss blues driver versus Ibanez Tubescreamer
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:22 pm
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Screamin' Armadillo wrote:
What other pedals are you running? (new thread material: "proper pedal order")...


So far I have the following:

Boss CE-5. Chorus Ensemble
MXR Carbon Copy Analog delay
Dunlop Cry Baby
Boss BD-2 Overdrive
Polytune 2 Tuner Pedal
One Spot Power Supply

I ready like the sound of both Chorus and Delay together. I could have just bought a multi effects box but I preferred to go with individual pedals. I am thinking about getting an iStomp pedal later. The idea of one pedal that can be configured as one of 47 different pedals on the fly seems pretty cool...


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Post subject: Re: Boss blues driver versus Ibanez Tubescreamer
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:45 pm
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truebluefliplover wrote:
Screamin' Armadillo wrote:
What other pedals are you running? (new thread material: "proper pedal order")...


So far I have the following:

Boss CE-5. Chorus Ensemble
MXR Carbon Copy Analog delay
Dunlop Cry Baby
Boss BD-2 Overdrive
Polytune 2 Tuner Pedal
One Spot Power Supply

I ready like the sound of both Chorus and Delay together. I could have just bought a multi effects box but I preferred to go with individual pedals. I am thinking about getting an iStomp pedal later. The idea of one pedal that can be configured as one of 47 different pedals on the fly seems pretty cool...


My head spins just reading that. I could literally spend hours just experimenting with the tone options on my amp alone. Throw in an effects pedal and (hopefully) another guitar to my collection after the holidays, and I my head may literally explode. It's too much for my OCD personality and ADHD tendencies to handle. If only my skill level was on par with my buying habits ...


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Post subject: Re: Boss blues driver versus Ibanez Tubescreamer
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 5:02 pm
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LouisvilleNoob wrote:
truebluefliplover wrote:
Screamin' Armadillo wrote:
What other pedals are you running? (new thread material: "proper pedal order")...


So far I have the following:

Boss CE-5. Chorus Ensemble
MXR Carbon Copy Analog delay
Dunlop Cry Baby
Boss BD-2 Overdrive
Polytune 2 Tuner Pedal
One Spot Power Supply

I ready like the sound of both Chorus and Delay together. I could have just bought a multi effects box but I preferred to go with individual pedals. I am thinking about getting an iStomp pedal later. The idea of one pedal that can be configured as one of 47 different pedals on the fly seems pretty cool...


My head spins just reading that. I could literally spend hours just experimenting with the tone options on my amp alone. Throw in an effects pedal and (hopefully) another guitar to my collection after the holidays, and I my head may literally explode. It's too much for my OCD personality and ADHD tendencies to handle. If only my skill level was on par with my buying habits ...


I am so used to using the built in effects on my old Fender GDEC 3 when I practice that I just had to get a few pedals for the effects that I like. I still have a lot of learning to do but I am having fun doing so.

Congrats on the soon to be new guitar acquisition!


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Post subject: Re: Boss blues driver versus Ibanez Tubescreamer
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 7:00 pm
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I am so used to using the built in effects on my old Fender GDEC 3 when I practice that I just had to get a few pedals for the effects that I like. I still have a lot of learning to do but I am having fun doing so.

Congrats on the soon to be new guitar acquisition![/quote]



It's funny you mention that. I started with a Mustang I followed by a SuperChamp (and liked them both ... especially the SuperChamp) but got rid of them for a Blues Jr to simplify things for myself. Sometimes you can have too much of a good thing when you don't know what you're doing.


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Post subject: Re: Boss blues driver versus Ibanez Tubescreamer
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 7:18 pm
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Not to go off-topic, the Ibanez Tube Screamer, Boss SD1 and Bluesdriver are all based off similar circutry, with some minor differences in resistors values. For the pricepoint involved in what you are getting, I'd go with the Boss SD1. You'll save over $50 for a similar pedal. This pedal is $34.99 new, and if you get a company to price match, plus give you 10% of the difference, this would be a dollar or so cheaper.

http://www.birdlandmusic.net/product.php?productid=3778


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Post subject: Re: Boss blues driver versus Ibanez Tubescreamer
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 7:47 pm
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divebomber wrote:
Not to go off-topic, the Ibanez Tube Screamer, Boss SD1 and Bluesdriver are all based off similar circutry, with some minor differences in resistors values. For the pricepoint involved in what you are getting, I'd go with the Boss SD1. You'll save over $50 for a similar pedal. This pedal is $34.99 new, and if you get a company to price match, plus give you 10% of the difference, this would be a dollar or so cheaper.

http://www.birdlandmusic.net/product.php?productid=3778


Divebomber:

Thanks for the suggestion. I already ordered the Bluesdriver and it is on its way via UPS and should be here on Friday so hopefully I will be happy with it. It did seem pretty good at Guitar Denter. Your mentioning of them having similar circuitry is something I find very interesting. I am tempted to buy a couple/few lower priced pedals just to take them apart and to see what makes them tick. Unfortunately I have spent WAY to much money on presents this month. My credit card is about to have a coronary...


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Post subject: Re: Boss blues driver versus Ibanez Tubescreamer
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 7:51 pm
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LouisvilleNoob wrote:
I am so used to using the built in effects on my old Fender GDEC 3 when I practice that I just had to get a few pedals for the effects that I like. I still have a lot of learning to do but I am having fun doing so.

Congrats on the soon to be new guitar acquisition!




It's funny you mention that. I started with a Mustang I followed by a SuperChamp (and liked them both ... especially the SuperChamp) but got rid of them for a Blues Jr to simplify things for myself. Sometimes you can have too much of a good thing when you don't know what you're doing.[/quote]

LouisvilleNoob:

I watched quite a few videos on youtube about the Suoerchamps and came close to buying one instead of the Blues Junior NOS. I had been wanting a Blues Junior for quite a while and after buying a few amps that disappointed me greatly, I decided to stick to my game plan and get the B-Junior. I am very glad that I did though. It is definitely a keeper...


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Post subject: Re: Boss blues driver versus Ibanez Tubescreamer
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:23 pm
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divebomber wrote:
Not to go off-topic, the Ibanez Tube Screamer, Boss SD1 and Bluesdriver are all based off similar circutry, with some minor differences in resistors values. For the pricepoint involved in what you are getting, I'd go with the Boss SD1. You'll save over $50 for a similar pedal. This pedal is $34.99 new, and if you get a company to price match, plus give you 10% of the difference, this would be a dollar or so cheaper.

http://www.birdlandmusic.net/product.php?productid=3778

The Boss SD1 Super Overdrive and BD1 Blues Driver are similar, but not exactly the same.

I would describe the SD1 as the missing link between the (infamous and somewhat maligned) Ibanez TS10 Tube Screamer and the Boss Blues Driver...

The SD1 has a slightly harder edge, a bit more suitable for hard rock than the smoother "bluesy" overdrive of the TS9 and BD pedals...it's not to say its a bad pedal (it's a good 'un by almost any yardstick), but it's not the same pedal, similar circuitry notwithstanding.

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Post subject: Re: Boss blues driver versus Ibanez Tubescreamer
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:29 pm
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This is purely my (VERY SUBJECTIVE) opinion about the order of the pedals...Your mileage may vary, and all that jazz...

Polytune 2 Tuner Pedal
Boss BD-2 Blues Driver Overdrive
Boss CE-5 Chorus Ensemble
Dunlop Cry Baby
MXR Carbon Copy Analog delay

Here's my reasoning:
Tuner--I assume the Polytune has a "silent" mode while tuning, so you can use this as a "kill switch" when swapping guitars, unplugging your guitar, etc. Also, you don't want the tuning affected by an effect (especially a modulation effect like a Chorus, Wah, Phase Shifter, Flanger, etc.)
Overdrive--see the next section...
Chorus--here's a spot where personal taste/opinion really come into play. Many/most people only use chorus "clean" (no distortion, fuzz or overdrive), and many/most of those people (when they decide to "dirty up" that chorus effect) prefer to push overdrive into that modulated effect...YMMV, try it both ways (chorus before OD or OD before chorus).
Wah--I prefer the sound of an overdriven wah, rather than a wah into an overdrive. Again, YMMV.
Delay/Echo--this always goes last. Period. If you ever get a noise gate/noise reduction pedal, put it before the Delay, because it sees the trailing "echos" as artifact/noise.

This is my opinion, but you should play around with the pedal order--it helps create "your" own personal sound.

Let us know what you end up doing, and of course, post some pictures and sound samples (if possible)...

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Post subject: Re: Boss blues driver versus Ibanez Tubescreamer
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 4:37 pm
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Screamin' Armadillo wrote:
This is purely my (VERY SUBJECTIVE) opinion about the order of the pedals...Your mileage may vary, and all that jazz...

Polytune 2 Tuner Pedal
Boss BD-2 Blues Driver Overdrive
Boss CE-5 Chorus Ensemble
Dunlop Cry Baby
MXR Carbon Copy Analog delay

Here's my reasoning:
Tuner--I assume the Polytune has a "silent" mode while tuning, so you can use this as a "kill switch" when swapping guitars, unplugging your guitar, etc. Also, you don't want the tuning affected by an effect (especially a modulation effect like a Chorus, Wah, Phase Shifter, Flanger, etc.)
Overdrive--see the next section...
Chorus--here's a spot where personal taste/opinion really come into play. Many/most people only use chorus "clean" (no distortion, fuzz or overdrive), and many/most of those people (when they decide to "dirty up" that chorus effect) prefer to push overdrive into that modulated effect...YMMV, try it both ways (chorus before OD or OD before chorus).
Wah--I prefer the sound of an overdriven wah, rather than a wah into an overdrive. Again, YMMV.
Delay/Echo--this always goes last. Period. If you ever get a noise gate/noise reduction pedal, put it before the Delay, because it sees the trailing "echos" as artifact/noise.

This is my opinion, but you should play around with the pedal order--it helps create "your" own personal sound.

Let us know what you end up doing, and of course, post some pictures and sound samples (if possible)...


S-Armadillo, thank you for the advice. Surprisingly except for the Wah pedal, that is the order I was already going to try. I had intended to place the Wah pedal first in the chain. After reading your advice, I think that I will however defer to your experience and put it just prior to the delay pedal.

Of course, nothing is set in concrete. I will probably move stuff around and experiment a little.

I also noticed that some people like to use the Boss BD-2 in conjunction with the Tubescreamer. That sounds interesting for a future experiment...


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Post subject: Re: Boss blues driver versus Ibanez Tubescreamer
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:01 pm
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If you decide to get a second OD pedal (TS9, SD1, whatever), you might try putting one on either end of your modulation effects (an OD BEFORE your chorus, wah, phaser, flanger and one AFTER)...you get the best of both worlds that way.

I have done that on my (admittedly ridiculous) pedalboard, and it's cool to have so many options at my fingers, erm...feet.

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Post subject: Re: Boss blues driver versus Ibanez Tubescreamer
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:17 pm
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Post subject: Re: Boss blues driver versus Ibanez Tubescreamer
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 8:06 am
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TS9 will get you a creamier OD tone vs the blues driver. Both are great pedals, depending what you wanna
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