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Post subject: 440hz - a conspiracy???
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 10:01 am
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440hz Music - a conspiracy to detune us from natural 432Hz harmonics? Many mainstream scientists believe this to be true - they just picked the wrong concert pitch frequency as in 1953 they didn't know any better.

http://www.whydontyoutrythis.com/2013/0 ... 432hz.html

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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 10:04 am
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Do the math - what if 440 is the right number, but the arbitrary unit of time that we call "one second" is the wrong length of time?

If we lengthened this unit of time to be 440/432 times as long as the current "one second" is today, this would make it about 1.018 times as long, and the frequency that we could *call* 440 Hz (with that new, slightly longer "one second") would have the same pitch as what we call 432 Hz today.

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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 10:48 am
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So how does this affect tone wood? :lol: :lol: :lol: Actually, very interesting reading. About 15 years ago I attended a lecture by a Dr who has written a couple books on unusual things about the universe and animals. I remember him talking about how the animal kingdom is in tune. He played a lot of different soundbites and then show that his tests indicated that the many different types of animals made sounds in the same key. I remember he had taken the howl of a wolf and compared it to a whale and then showed that they were in exactly the same key. Was pretty amazing. Wish I could remember the name of the man. I just checked Google and found this interesting article. Read the last paragraph!

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1094431/index.htm

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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 10:52 am
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I call shenanigans. I don't understand what makes 432 "natural" or mathematically nice, its not like its a Fibonacci number or a prime or anything fun like that.

Here's some interesting reading;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_pitch_standards_in_Western_music#Current_concert_pitches

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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:07 am
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Do the math - what if 440 is the right number, but the arbitrary unit of time that we call "one second" is the wrong length of time?

If we lengthened this unit of time to be 440/432 times as long as the current "one second" is today, this would make it about 1.018 times as long, and the frequency that we could *call* 440 Hz (with that new, slightly longer "one second") would have the same pitch as what we call 432 Hz today.


Lengthening the "one second" measurement might also help reconcile that whole quadrennial "leap year" paradox as well.

:lol:

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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:28 am
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Xhefri wrote:
So how does this affect tone wood? :lol: :lol: :lol: Actually, very interesting reading. About 15 years ago I attended a lecture by a Dr who has written a couple books on unusual things about the universe and animals. I remember him talking about how the animal kingdom is in tune. He played a lot of different soundbites and then show that his tests indicated that the many different types of animals made sounds in the same key. I remember he had taken the howl of a wolf and compared it to a whale and then showed that they were in exactly the same key. Was pretty amazing. Wish I could remember the name of the man. I just checked Google and found this interesting article. Read the last paragraph!

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1094431/index.htm


Interesting... !

If that professor is correct about animals and frequency, I'd theorize that this 'natural' frequency somehow relates to how sound propagates through the air at certain frequencies and that animals simply evolved to take advantage of it.

Take for instance Mating Calls. Those better able to to send their calls over a broader range had a greater chance of finding a mate and passing their genes through to another generation than an animal with a more limited range. This 'adaptation' eventually over time resulted in all/most of that species acquiring this ability as those without it had a greater chance of not mating and dying off.

So far as the time interval of a second changing, this recently occurred. The 8.8 magnitude earthquake in Chile (Mar. '10) and the 8.9 magnitude Japanese earthquake (Mar. '11) each shifted the Earth's mass resulting in a shifted axis (3°), speeding up it's rotation and shortening a day (earth rotation) by 1.26 and 1.8 microseconds (millionth of a sec.) respectively. So a 'traditional' second (based upon 1 earth rotation) also sped up. This would have no effect on the 'scientific' second though as this is based upon the vibration of the cesium atom which is immune to such occurances.

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I know I have played my guitar de-tuned to many different frequencies and never noticed at any one time I was more in tune with the universe somehow, or picked up some special harmonic resonance! :lol: 8) BUT I might start jamming in the key of D flat and see if any wild animals show up on my porch! Too bad hunting season is over... :? Is interesting where the 440hz came from.

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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 12:10 pm
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Lengthening the "one second" measurement might also help reconcile that whole quadrennial "leap year" paradox as well. :lol:
Arjay


So, we just move to another planet with the correct second duration. :D

But wait...there's more...

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xvbi0p ... _lifestyle

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So if I re tune my guitars to A 432 Hz will this make me a better person and one with the universe? I am going to try this tonight and try to feel the new me :D
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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 3:03 pm
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Music based on 432 Hz transmits beneficial healing energy, because it is a pure tone of math fundamental to nature.


Yeah I'm going to call hippie government conspiracy on this one...

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Does this apply to maple or rosewood fret boards? :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Xhefri wrote:
So how does this affect tone wood? :lol: :lol: :lol: Actually, very interesting reading. About 15 years ago I attended a lecture by a Dr who has written a couple books on unusual things about the universe and animals. I remember him talking about how the animal kingdom is in tune. He played a lot of different soundbites and then show that his tests indicated that the many different types of animals made sounds in the same key. I remember he had taken the howl of a wolf and compared it to a whale and then showed that they were in exactly the same key. Was pretty amazing. Wish I could remember the name of the man. I just checked Google and found this interesting article. Read the last paragraph!

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1094431/index.htm





This would have no effect on the 'scientific' second though as this is based upon the vibration of the cesium atom which is immune to such occurances.

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This not not occur until the 1960's

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Most modern tuners have adjustable settings. Find one that sounds good and go with it. If it does nothing else it will confuse people on how you got your sound.

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