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Post subject: will my guitar loose any value?
Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 1:24 pm
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Contimplating changing the colour of my guitar..will it loose any value?

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Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 1:28 pm
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Well we could do with knowing what guitar it is, however as a general rule of thumb, changing something from original will devalue it should it become a desirable commodity in the future.


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Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 1:34 pm
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Of course sorry.. it's a 2000 american standard tele

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Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 1:46 pm
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Changing colour will affect the resale value of your otherwise stock MIA Tele. Even changing the whole body to one finished in a colour you like would still affect collector value because in order to swap bodies you would have to disturb factory solder connections. Unless, of course, you completely rewire the new body from all new parts and leave your old body intact as a loaded unit. That said, a 2000 AS Tele likely won't have any collector value for another 40+ years.

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Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 2:10 pm
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Generally speaking, any modifications will affect value negatively, even if the mods are expensive and for the better. Upgrade it, and the value goes down, not up.
Too many times I've seen ads where the owner proudly proclaims that an old guitar has been upgraded with better pickups, or an amp with a better speaker, and thinks that it will fetch a higher price. Rather the opposite. It may be better afterwards, but usually worth less.

This does make sense. Because new guitars are made that are as good as or better than the old ones, the main value the older ones have are as a living piece of history - a memento and snapshot of a time that has come and gone. Often, there's a link with childhood or memories for some buyers, which drives the price up. A guitar that's just been repainted or have had DiMarzio pickups put in severs that link.

But why worry? If you intend to sell it, then why paint it? And if you don't intend to sell it or use it as collateral for a loan, the worth doesn't matter to you, only to your estate.


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Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 3:03 pm
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don't make the mistake and think that a modern "line" guitar is going to be worth what a '54 strat is worth today. they likely made as many guitars in 2000 as fender made between 54 to 64. it's harder to get a strat made in those times. it will be easier to get a strat that is made today 60 years from now. if you are buying a strat made today unless it's a custom one-off for investment value you are sadly mistaken. sorry if i ticked you off or broke your heart but it's the truth. just love your strat and play the hell out of it and you won't want to get rid of it.


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Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 3:54 pm
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Changing colour will affect the resale value of your otherwise stock MIA Tele. Even changing the whole body to one finished in a colour you like would still affect collector value because in order to swap bodies you would have to disturb factory solder connections. Unless, of course, you completely rewire the new body from all new parts and leave your old body intact as a loaded unit. That said, a 2000 AS Tele likely won't have any collector value for another 40+ years.



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Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 4:10 pm
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Thanks..geuss i'll leave it lake placid blue..just have to keep sayin its my gf 's guitar :lol:

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Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 4:11 pm
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shinkicker wrote:
don't make the mistake and think that a modern "line" guitar is going to be worth what a '54 strat is worth today. they likely made as many guitars in 2000 as fender made between 54 to 64. it's harder to get a strat made in those times. it will be easier to get a strat that is made today 60 years from now. if you are buying a strat made today unless it's a custom one-off for investment value you are sadly mistaken. sorry if i ticked you off or broke your heart but it's the truth. just love your strat and play the hell out of it and you won't want to get rid of it.


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As if a cookie-cutter Tele from 2000 was really a credible "investment".

:lol:

Do as you will with it......save for a Beavis & Butthead backyard relic job, nothing is likely to cause any significant depreciation.

IOW, break out that rattlecan of Krylon!

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Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 4:22 pm
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Thanks..geuss i'll leave it lake placid blue..just have to keep sayin its my gf 's guitar :lol:


My word there is nothing wrong with that colour, in fact my Tele is that very colour and I'm proud to rock out on it.

I'd hate to hear your opinion on a Shell Pink Strat that I want so badly!


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Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 4:27 pm
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sorry my fault saying strat. i ment tele. too much turkey i guess. but my statement still stands with any modern guitar made by the hundreds a week.


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Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 4:38 pm
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shinkicker wrote:
they likely made as many guitars in 2000 as fender made between 54 to 64. it's harder to get a strat made in those times. it will be easier to get a strat that is made today 60 years from now.

Yes and no. We also live in a consumerist society today, where the average young person does not take nearly as good care of their possessions as people did back when. If something breaks or wears out, they toss it and buy something new. And even if it doesn't break, things go to the landfill.
Then there's the product quality. Components today aren't meant to last forever. "Old spec" capacitors and resistors fetch a high price, because they were made to last. If you made 2000 guitars a year, it did not matter much whether you paid two cents more for good components. But when you make two million guitars, that becomes a significant figure.

Then add planned obsolescence. Like active pickups which the producer knows won't work 30 or even 10 years down the road. Or built-in electronics with ICs that have a life expectancy of mere years. That's good from one point of view, because it forces the customer to buy something else down the road. For a standard Strat/Tele, that isn't a problem (as of yet), but there are plenty of models that won't be playable.

Finally, the price isn't just decided by supply, but also by demand. If enough of today's yuff grows into middle-aged affluent people who want things that reminds them of their youth, the prices will go up too.

But all in all, don't expect a guitar to appreciate quickly. If you have the right model, it may gain in value in the very long run, but if you don't, it may lose. We can't know beforehand - if we could, someone would buy up all the ones that would appreciate, and sell short those who will depreciate. Chances are that any appreciation won't keep up with inflation, but in the mean time, you have a good guitar to play!
So play it.


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Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 6:00 pm
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As if a cookie-cutter Tele from 2000 was really a credible "investment".

:lol:

Do as you will with it......save for a Beavis & Butthead backyard relic job, nothing is likely to cause any significant depreciation.

IOW, break out that rattlecan of Krylon!

:mrgreen:

Arjay[/quote]

:idea: Some really good ideas here. I think i might stay away from the "pink" though :shock:
You think my strings might last longer if I use tremclad?

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Guitars, cars and all types of items all share a couple of traits. First, they all have some 'collectible' value but some become more collectible than others and second, the collectible value decreases the further the piece drifts from original.

There are sources available to check if the particular Tele you have is in some way special. It could be a limited model, rare color, or whatever. Baring something along those lines, if I had a 2000 Tele and wanted to change the color then I would go for it. WARNING: Even though a 2000 Standard Tele is not a 'collectible' it will lose some of it's value if modified.

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Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 6:18 pm
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shinkicker wrote:
they likely made as many guitars in 2000 as fender made between 54 to 64. it's harder to get a strat made in those times. it will be easier to get a strat that is made today 60 years from now.

Yes and no. We also live in a consumerist society today, where the average young person does not take nearly as good care of their possessions as people did back when. If something breaks or wears out, they toss it and buy something new. And even if it doesn't break, things go to the landfill.
Then there's the product quality. Components today aren't meant to last forever. "Old spec" capacitors and resistors fetch a high price, because they were made to last. If you made 2000 guitars a year, it did not matter much whether you paid two cents more for good components. But when you make two million guitars, that becomes a significant figure.

Then add planned obsolescence. Like active pickups which the producer knows won't work 30 or even 10 years down the road. Or built-in electronics with ICs that have a life expectancy of mere years. That's good from one point of view, because it forces the customer to buy something else down the road. For a standard Strat/Tele, that isn't a problem (as of yet), but there are plenty of models that won't be playable.

Finally, the price isn't just decided by supply, but also by demand. If enough of today's yuff grows into middle-aged affluent people who want things that reminds them of their youth, the prices will go up too.

But all in all, don't expect a guitar to appreciate quickly. If you have the right model, it may gain in value in the very long run, but if you don't, it may lose. We can't know beforehand - if we could, someone would buy up all the ones that would appreciate, and sell short those who will depreciate. Chances are that any appreciation won't keep up with inflation, but in the mean time, you have a good guitar to play!
So play it.

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