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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 8:50 pm
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How many of you guys can read the notes to sheet music when you play? Such as the notes above the tablature on Guitar Pro?
I have trouble reading and memorizing it. What kind of things do you guys do to remember and learn the notes?

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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 8:53 pm
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I've only known how to read notes in time signature, otherwise I can't read sheet music at all.


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I can't really read music all that well, but if you are talking about the notes, I know that on sheet music, start at the bottom line, and going up to the next line and the next etc. its:
E-very
G-ood
B-oy
D-eserves
F-udge

The notes for the spaces on sheet music is F-A-C-E, or FACE.

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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 9:40 pm
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Like learning any language, it comes with time and practice.

I'm not as good at sight reading music notation as when learning classical guitar - where you MUST sight read or be shamed by your teacher. ;) Nonetheless, learn the timings and signatures and groupings (triplets and such) - which aren't too much to learn. And learn to relate the notes to the guitar notes. The EGBDF and FACE pneumonics are a good start for learning the notes on the staff. But I found it easier, what with many notes below and above the staff on guitar, to relate the guitar notes to the notes on the staff. For instance, the low-E is the space below the third extension line, A is the second extension line, D is the first space below the staff, etc. (off the top of my head - so I remember something). :)

Personally, tablature is better for guitar with respect to notes since many guitar notes have two or three representatives on the fretboard. But you still need notation for timing. Tab without timing is only good if you know the song or the timing is simplistic.

Just like learning the notes on the fretboard, you should slowly acquaint yourself with notes on the staff in relation. Starting with the open string notes can give you a starting point.


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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 8:13 am
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bowlfreshener wrote:
I can't really read music all that well, but if you are talking about the notes, I know that on sheet music, start at the bottom line, and going up to the next line and the next etc. its:
E-very
G-ood
B-oy
D-eserves
F-udge

The notes for the spaces on sheet music is F-A-C-E, or FACE.



I use that one too. Then it is a matter of remembering the key signature.

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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 8:30 am
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You just have to practice reading music everyday. Otherwise the skill does not connect or the it becomes lethargic.

It is amazing how much 15 minutes a day of dedicated reading will do.


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I'm not really into it. The tip from bowlfreshener is good...

thanx :D


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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 12:19 pm
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The issue I haven't isn't in the reading of the music. It's in translating that to my guitar!

I'm really strong in music theory and composition and all that stuff. I just never quite combined that with my guitar playing. My sight reading with guitar is awful.

Though, picking out the melody or whatever with my guitar off of music is pretty easy. It's mostly a problem with the stuff in TABs. Often, much of your information is coming from the TAB staff as well as the regular staff. I'm not sure most transcriptions would work without the TAB.

For classical guitarists, of course this is different. But how often to you see slides and bends and whatnot in classical guitar compositions?

So, like I said, I can read the notes. I just can't always play what I read.


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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 12:35 pm
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I read the music and really cannot think of what I would do without it. I think the convention of printing the notes with the tabs underneath is excellent. I find it to be very expressive.


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Others may differ with me on this, but I detest 'key signatures'. Great for knowing the key, horrid for quickly reading the music. I'd rather the key sig was just denoting the key but the notes where sharped and flatted all the way through. And here's why: It may seem like a nice 'shorthand' but this means that you have to know which notes are sharp/flat in each key - and you have to apply this little algorithm for every note you encounter. For instance, if you are playing in the key of E major you have to sharp four notes and leave three unaltered. Everytime you encounter C,D,F,G you have to have that mental note to sharp them in your head - although they don't have sharp indicators, they are sharp. It may supplement transposition (which we all do constantly, right?) but what devil made this decision. ;)


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bowlfreshener wrote:
I can't really read music all that well, but if you are talking about the notes, I know that on sheet music, start at the bottom line, and going up to the next line and the next etc. its:
E-very
G-ood
B-oy
D-eserves
F-udge

The notes for the spaces on sheet music is F-A-C-E, or FACE.


That's what I do, I have a band class and that's how I was taught to remember the notes. But when the notes get above the staff or below the staff I have trouble.

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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:42 am
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'Do not have the discipline or passion to learn to read well. More's the pity.

Prefer to read it the first ten or twenty or thirty times and then play until it sinks in and becomes part of the repertioire.


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