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Post subject: Another Chord Question
Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:27 pm
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Can anyone clear this up for me, an add4 chord has the third in it and the fourth is in the same octave as the root, right? An add11 chord also has the third but it's an add11 because that note is not played in the same octave as the root, right?


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Post subject: Re: Another Chord Question
Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:23 pm
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In theory, yes.
In practice, I don't think it's possible to play an add4 chord on a standard tuned guitar without flipping it on its back and playing it like a lap steel. Take C-E-F-G in the same octave, for example - you would need a serious stretch:

-x-
-x-
-0-
-3-
-7-
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Post subject: Re: Another Chord Question
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:34 pm
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arth1 wrote:
In theory, yes.
In practice, I don't think it's possible to play an add4 chord on a standard tuned guitar without flipping it on its back and playing it like a lap steel. Take C-E-F-G in the same octave, for example - you would need a serious stretch:

-x-
-x-
-0-
-3-
-7-
-8-


What is this chord then, 'ol barf1!

-5-
-3-
-0-
-4-
-5-
-x-

Why it's a Dadd4 in standard tuning and minimal stretching, yea!


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Post subject: Re: Another Chord Question
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JimRussellMills30! wrote:
arth1 wrote:
In theory, yes.
In practice, I don't think it's possible to play an add4 chord on a standard tuned guitar without flipping it on its back and playing it like a lap steel. Take C-E-F-G in the same octave, for example - you would need a serious stretch:

-x-
-x-
-0-
-3-
-7-
-8-


What is this chord then, 'ol barf1!

-5-
-3-
-0-
-4-
-5-
-x-

Why it's a Dadd4 in standard tuning and minimal stretching, yea!


But your chord has the A in a higher octave only. That'd be a ... D sus4 add12? :D


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Post subject: Re: Another Chord Question
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:25 pm
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arth1 wrote:
JimRussellMills30! wrote:
arth1 wrote:
In theory, yes.
In practice, I don't think it's possible to play an add4 chord on a standard tuned guitar without flipping it on its back and playing it like a lap steel. Take C-E-F-G in the same octave, for example - you would need a serious stretch:

-x-
-x-
-0-
-3-
-7-
-8-


What is this chord then, 'ol barf1!

-5-
-3-
-0-
-4-
-5-
-x-

Why it's a Dadd4 in standard tuning and minimal stretching, yea!


But your chord has the A in a higher octave only. That'd be a ... D sus4 add12? :D


:roll: No, no and no, period! :wink:


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Post subject: Re: Another Chord Question
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:31 pm
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JimRussellMills30! wrote:
Can anyone clear this up for me, an add4 chord has the third in it and the fourth is in the same octave as the root, right? An add11 chord also has the third but it's an add11 because that note is not played in the same octave as the root, right?


Correct. Most guitarist will just call it a "sus" chord, even though it's an add4. Even add11 gets called "sus" as a generic term. I personally prefer the exact spelling from another guitar player. It's different when talking to piano players, as they play chord voicings that are not practical on guitar.

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I've found theory to be helpful but I don't concern myself too much with it. Music theory doesn't tell us what combination of notes sounds good. Music theory is an attempt to explain why those combinations sound good.

I didn't make that up. I just happen to agree.

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Deluxe Matt wrote:
JimRussellMills30! wrote:
Can anyone clear this up for me, an add4 chord has the third in it and the fourth is in the same octave as the root, right? An add11 chord also has the third but it's an add11 because that note is not played in the same octave as the root, right?


Correct. Most guitarist will just call it a "sus" chord, even though it's an add4. Even add11 gets called "sus" as a generic term. I personally prefer the exact spelling from another guitar player. It's different when talking to piano players, as they play chord voicings that are not practical on guitar.


That!!! Well, that was what I was taught etc.... :)

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Post subject: Re: Another Chord Question
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 5:19 pm
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Deluxe Matt wrote:
JimRussellMills30! wrote:
Can anyone clear this up for me, an add4 chord has the third in it and the fourth is in the same octave as the root, right? An add11 chord also has the third but it's an add11 because that note is not played in the same octave as the root, right?


Correct. Most guitarist will just call it a "sus" chord (I don't think so! - [u]JimRussellMills30!),even though it's an add4. Even add11 gets called "sus" as a generic term (No. - JimRussellMills30!). I personally prefer the exact spelling from another guitar player. It's different when talking to piano players, as they play chord voicings that are not practical on guitar. (Finished yet?-[u]JimRussellMills30!)[/u]


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Post subject: Re: Another Chord Question
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JimRussellMills30! wrote:
Deluxe Matt wrote:
JimRussellMills30! wrote:
Can anyone clear this up for me, an add4 chord has the third in it and the fourth is in the same octave as the root, right? An add11 chord also has the third but it's an add11 because that note is not played in the same octave as the root, right?


Correct. Most guitarist will just call it a "sus" chord (I don't think so! - [u]JimRussellMills30!),even though it's an add4. Even add11 gets called "sus" as a generic term (No. - JimRussellMills30!). I personally prefer the exact spelling from another guitar player. It's different when talking to piano players, as they play chord voicings that are not practical on guitar. (Finished yet?-[u]JimRussellMills30!)[/u]


:o


What? Are you trolling your own topic?

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Post subject: Re: Another Chord Question
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 10:34 pm
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Deluxe Matt wrote:
JimRussellMills30! wrote:
JimRussellMills30! wrote:
Can anyone clear this up for me, an add4 chord has the third in it and the fourth is in the same octave as the root, right? An add11 chord also has the third but it's an add11 because that note is not played in the same octave as the root, right?

Correct. Most guitarist will just call it a "sus" chord (I don't think so! - [u]JimRussellMills30!),even though it's an add4. Even add11 gets called "sus" as a generic term (No. - JimRussellMills30!). I personally prefer the exact spelling from another guitar player. It's different when talking to piano players, as they play chord voicings that are not practical on guitar. (Finished yet?-[u]JimRussellMills30!)[/u]


:o


What? Are you trolling your own topic?


:lol: , you are too cool for school Matt. 8)

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Post subject: Re: Another Chord Question
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:40 am
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Both are acceptable. The only time you really need to get hung up about whether or not to use compound intervals talking to guitarists is when you have a chord which contains two of the same intervals but of different qualities and in different octaves. For instance, you would write Asus2flat9 rather than Asus2butalsowithaanotherflattened2butanoctavehigher.

You could also write a Dadd4 as a Gmaj7sus2 if you're feeling frisky.

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Post subject: Re: Another Chord Question
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:11 pm
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What? Are you trolling your own topic?

JimRussellMills30! wrote:
Deluxe Matt wrote:
JimRussellMills30! wrote:
Can anyone clear this up for me, an add4 chord has the third in it and the fourth is in the same octave as the root, right? An add11 chord also has the third but it's an add11 because that note is not played in the same octave as the root, right?


Correct. Most guitarist will just call it a "sus" chord (I don't think so! - [u]JimRussellMills30!),even though it's an add4. Even add11 gets called "sus" as a generic term (No. - JimRussellMills30!). I personally prefer the exact spelling from another guitar player. It's different when talking to piano players, as they play chord voicings that are not practical on guitar. (Finished yet?-[u]JimRussellMills30!)[/u]


:o


What? Are you trolling your own topic (are you reverse-trolling my topic-J.R.M.30! ) ?
Deluxe Matt: Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 2:12 pm


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Post subject: Re: Another Chord Question
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:20 pm
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lol , you are too cool for school Matt.
Deluxe Matt wrote:
JimRussellMills30! wrote:
JimRussellMills30! wrote:
Can anyone clear this up for me, an add4 chord has the third in it and the fourth is in the same octave as the root, right? An add11 chord also has the third but it's an add11 because that note is not played in the same octave as the root, right?

Correct. Most guitarist will just call it a "sus" chord (I don't think so! - [u]JimRussellMills30!),even though it's an add4. Even add11 gets called "sus" as a generic term (No. - JimRussellMills30!). I personally prefer the exact spelling from another guitar player. It's different when talking to piano players, as they play chord voicings that are not practical on guitar. (Finished yet?-[u]JimRussellMills30!)[/u]


:o


What? Are you trolling your own topic?


:lol: , you too are cool (-JimRussellMills30! )for Matt's school. 8)

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