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Post subject: How to line up pedals?!
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:49 pm
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Let's say an average pedal board usually consists of a tuner, compressor, delay, overdrive, fuzz and chorus. :mrgreen:

How important is the order of the pedals for the end result (guitar tone)?

In which order would you configure your pedal board?

Does the order really matter of not (sound wise)?

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Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:10 pm
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Hi Nikola. Yes, it makes a difference, and you should definitely experiment with pedal order to see for yourself. Good ear training.

Conventional wisdom is that we put sound shaping pedals (boost, compression, drive and distortion) before modulation/time based effects (chorus, flanger, delay, tremolo, etc). Some people like to run modulation pedals through their amp's FX loop, if it has one, so that they also come after the amp's gain stage. Others don't bother with this.

A tuner obviously comes first in the chain so it can hear the signal from the guitar unaffected. And people have strong and diverse feelings about where a wah pedal should come - at the start or elsewhere.

Just to share, my own setup on the practice amp is tuner-compressor-drive-chorus-delay-looper-amp. On the grown-up rig it goes tuner-compressor-delay-amp.

There are ma-a-any other possibilities. Let the fun begin.

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Ceri wrote:
A tuner obviously comes first in the chain so it can hear the signal from the guitar unaffected. Cheers - C


I've stocked up on some of those CR-2032 3V batteries so I'm using my Snark clip-on to 'see' each string and have now taken
my pedal tuner out of the chain.

For what it's worth, I'm now going guitar>compressor>overdrive>harmonizer>delay>amp.

Those Snarks (S1) are great for accuracy, but eat those coin cell batteries kinda quick.

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Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:21 pm
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Left to Right for me... :lol:

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Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:38 pm
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Good advise so far. Conventional wisdom says that fuzz pedals sound best first in you chain (what you plug the guitar directly into before your signal extends to other pedals). I generally go with the conventional way of doing things on my pedalboard, with the exception of the fuzz pedal. I actually place my fuzz pedal after my compression, distortion and overdrive. I just liked the way it sounded there after I experimented with it a bit. I also rarely use fuzz with any distortion or overdrive anyway, so it didn't make that much of a difference to me anyway.

So basically, just experiment a bit with your pedalboard. Sometimes you can find really cool combinations that alter what the effects do dramatically, and sometimes it just sounds like crap. :lol: But you never know until you try!

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Thankyou Ceri and Texas. NT, I've always put the wah last and have thought reverb after but haven't tried that yet.

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Thankyou Ceri and Texas. NT, I've always put the wah last and have thought reverb after but haven't tried that yet.


I always like reverb at the very end. Sometimes it sounds funky if you add it before that, particularly if you have a delay going. I've put the wah first and last, and while I used to prefer last I'm tending to put it first now days. Either way sounds fine to me in my rig.

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Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 12:03 am
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texasguitarslinger wrote:
I actually place my fuzz pedal after my compression, distortion and overdrive.


Thanks, I'm awaiting on my new hoof fuzz to arrive early next week .. and will report how the experiments went. :mrgreen: :lol:


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Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 12:39 am
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Solid Body Love Songs wrote:
Thankyou Ceri and Texas. NT, I've always put the wah last and have thought reverb after but haven't tried that yet.


I always like reverb at the very end. Sometimes it sounds funky if you add it before that, particularly if you have a delay going. I've put the wah first and last, and while I used to prefer last I'm tending to put it first now days. Either way sounds fine to me in my rig.


Thanks again Texas. The guitar player with the ponytail in this vid asked me where to put the wah and I said at the end. His pedals were a fuzz, overdrive and distortion in what order I can't remember but it does sound good at the end on this track I thought. :D

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Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:23 am
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Start with the conventional wisdom, but if something doesn't sound quite right, try changing things around. My board goes tuner-distortion-fuzz-harmonist-phaser
I've found it works best that way. put the distortion after the fuzz and I lose a lot of that thickness from the fuzz, put the harmonist or phaser before the distortion, it sounds horrible. but, when I had a digitech whammy, it sounded better before the fuzz. who knows? it's all in what you're working with.

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Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:31 am
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Miami Mike wrote:
Ceri wrote:
A tuner obviously comes first in the chain so it can hear the signal from the guitar unaffected. Cheers - C


I've stocked up on some of those CR-2032 3V batteries so I'm using my Snark clip-on to 'see' each string and have now taken
my pedal tuner out of the chain.

For what it's worth, I'm now going guitar>compressor>overdrive>harmonizer>delay>amp.

Those Snarks (S1) are great for accuracy, but eat those coin cell batteries kinda quick.


Mike; one downside I've found to the Snark, is if the band starts playing before you finish tuning, the Snark goes nuts because of all the resonation that the guitar starts to pick up. Otherwise I like them.
To the OP, I have half my pedals going to the front of the amp and half through the effects loop. Modulation, EQ, Sonic Stomp and clean boost all are in the loop. I figure if I have my amp and overdrive pedals set the way I want than adding boost for a solo at the front of the amp will also add more grit and it's no longer clean boost. Just my thought.

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