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Post subject: Re: taking on a student...
Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 5:11 am
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My dad bought me some Mel Bay books when I started playing. I couldn't make sense of them. They were very "sit straight and hold the guitar exactly like this"
and at that point I had already learned tabs. Mel Bay's books were very dated to me.
I've been putting together my own little printable for him. pulling things offline that make good sense to someone who has NO idea about guitar. whatcha think? forgive the cheesy anagram. he is 12 after all. :)
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Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 6:00 am
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lameandcliche wrote:
My dad bought me some Mel Bay books when I started playing. I couldn't make sense of them. They were very "sit straight and hold the guitar exactly like this"
and at that point I had already learned tabs. Mel Bay's books were very dated to me.
I've been putting together my own little printable for him. pulling things offline that make good sense to someone who has NO idea about guitar. whatcha think? forgive the cheesy anagram. he is 12 after all. :)
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Tell him why you usually don't play the low note on the A and D chords when strumming. This piece of information is too often neglected.


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Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:32 am
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arth1 wrote:
lameandcliche wrote:
My dad bought me some Mel Bay books when I started playing. I couldn't make sense of them. They were very "sit straight and hold the guitar exactly like this"
and at that point I had already learned tabs. Mel Bay's books were very dated to me.
I've been putting together my own little printable for him. pulling things offline that make good sense to someone who has NO idea about guitar. whatcha think? forgive the cheesy anagram. he is 12 after all. :)
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Tell him why you usually don't play the low note on the A and D chords when strumming. This piece of information is too often neglected.


Do you mean the low A and low D of the respective chords? I'm confluxed now? :?


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Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:18 am
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JimRussellMills30! wrote:
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Tell him why you usually don't play the low note on the A and D chords when strumming. This piece of information is too often neglected.


Do you mean the low A and low D of the respective chords? I'm confluxed now? :?


You have A listed as X-0-2-2-2-0 instead of 0-0-2-2-2-0.
To leave out the low E is common for strumming, because it makes the chord start on the base note (A), and the deepest string has the most sustain.
However, if doing finger picking, you certainly want to use the open E too. Or if you have a bass player, you don't need to carry the base note yourself.

Same for D, which you have as X-X-0-2-3-2 where it can also be played as X-0-0-2-3-2 (or 2-0-0-2-3-2 if you allow for thumb use).

Similar for C often being X-3-2-0-1-0 instead of 0-3-2-0-1-0 or 3-3-2-0-1-0, all of which are fine.

Just make sure you tell him that the reason they're partial chords is to start on the base note, and it's not required - it just tends to sound slightly better when strummed solo.
It had me confused when I was young and first learned guitar, and some charts listed 0-0-2-2-2-0 and others X-0-2-2-2-0.


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Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 11:51 am
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lameandcliche wrote:
My dad bought me some Mel Bay books when I started playing. I couldn't make sense of them. They were very "sit straight and hold the guitar exactly like this"
and at that point I had already learned tabs. Mel Bay's books were very dated to me.


My instructor made me go through book 1, and then stopped torturing me with it. :roll: If that's all there was to lessons, I probably would have quit a long time ago.

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Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 12:44 pm
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strings10927 wrote:
lameandcliche wrote:
My dad bought me some Mel Bay books when I started playing. I couldn't make sense of them. They were very "sit straight and hold the guitar exactly like this"
and at that point I had already learned tabs. Mel Bay's books were very dated to me.


My instructor made me go through book 1, and then stopped torturing me with it. :roll: If that's all there was to lessons, I probably would have quit a long time ago.


When they start telling how important it is to always keep your thumb under the neck, or you can never be good guitar player, you know it's dated. Either that, or guys like Jimi Hendrix, Eric Clapton and SRV weren't good guitar players.


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Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 2:29 pm
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good food for thought. I'm not really a chord guy myself. which probably automatically makes me a terrible person to show anyone how to play guitar. but, i can show him those basics, at least. hopefully give him better instruction than I was given when I started. won't be hard to do. lol

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Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 3:24 pm
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strings10927 wrote:
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My dad bought me some Mel Bay books when I started playing.


My instructor made me go through book 1, and then stopped torturing me with it. :roll:


Yes and yes, I probably learned a few pages from the first book. My instructor mentioned it and showed/talked about it a little and then it held hand outs from him between its pages. I don't know what to compare it to but every art form has at least one publication that is identified with the form. Exery guitarist since the 40s knows about Mel Bay lol or has a book by him. :D

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Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 3:41 pm
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yep yep. so what else would you guys add to that sheet ? or is that enough at least for the first week?

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Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 3:42 pm
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i mean. obviously that's plenty of stuff to worry about with the first lesson...but i mean, what other simple beginner stuff would you add just for him to have as a reference?

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Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 8:07 pm
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This little guy is just starting out. Basics man. Think back to when you 1st started playing. What were the things that gave you serious issues back then? Perhaps... how to hold the pick so he doesn't keep dropping it... How to move his fingers to get from one chord to another.... how to tune the guitar... let him know it's O.K. to really dig in and STRUM the guitar becvause it's not this delicate little thing that can't take it and so on. Very basic stuff in the beginning or you're gonna fry his circuit boards. Strip things down and keep them stupid simple.
Books.... well, Mel Bay is actually very good but... he may not dig that. Get him rocking on his chords... strum patterns etc... and show him how to play a song. If he's into it you'll know pretty fast. Follow your intuition and instruct him with stuff that's practical.

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