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Post subject: Re: Abby pickups in the trash?
Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 10:24 pm
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Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 10:49 pm
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Unfortunately, Abby's mystique came into prominence late in her game, owing to the interests of a collection of tone seekers who swore she had the touch for a certain type of pickup. I don't believe the company created the mystique.

Ah-ha. That touches on the question I've been scratching my head over while reading this thread. Roughly WHEN did we all begin to be aware of Abby's name, as Fender's "premium" pickup winder? I guess the rise of the Custom Shop had something to do with it. But I've tried and I'm blowed if I can remember the first time I heard the name of Abigail Ybarras and knew what it was about.

Whenever it was, she'd already been working for the Company for decades by that time.

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I first heard of her in about 2005... In frontline magazine I think there was an article about her.

Texas Specials were made for the SRV Strat way back in the '90s. They were designed to get that tone they were so popular that they soon became an aftermarket accessory when fender made them available. In fact, they were the first Customshop after market accessory.

Too much midrange for my liking though :?

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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 3:31 am
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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 4:35 am
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It was the best Les Paul man I traded it at 17 for a mighty mite V body no lie.What was I thinking? I was like this thing is so ugly I wanna be in style.

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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 4:42 am
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Texas Specials were made for the SRV Strat way back in the '90s. They were designed to get that tone they were so popular that they soon became an aftermarket accessory when fender made them available. In fact, they were the first Custom Shop after market accessory.

Thanks for that bit. It's likely that the demand among tone geeks for her work began then. Artists such as KWS and Jon Mayer were definitely SRV sycophants.

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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 6:42 am
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From Fender Frontline magazine, Vol. 26, July - December 1999. I notice the 'AY' initials were on the custom shop pickups even then.

My set were made in October 2008, and have the same 'AY' initials on them.


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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 7:17 am
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From Fender Frontline magazine, Vol. 26, July - December 1999. I notice the 'AY' initials were on the custom shop pickups even then. My set were made in October 2008, and have the same 'AY' initials on them.

Thanks for the historical note and timeline that it gives us. From the prior discussions, in particular the reference to Mike Eldred's forum, we know that she initials pickups whose manufacture she has 'supervised'. Kind of like the JD Powers for you present-day'ers, or the Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval for us older folk. It's the signed 'she wound'ems' which are the hot item.

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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 7:18 am
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Nice :)

You'll find mine on my Facebook timeline. :wink:

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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 7:28 am
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First off, who throws pickups in the trash?
And secondly, who would throw pickups in the trash?


I dunno......

I've seen ignorant clowns leave perfectly good gear at the curb for the garbage collectors to pick up.


+1, my Super Reverb Amp was found out with the trash :shock:

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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 7:54 am
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ZZDoc wrote:
Unfortunately, Abby's mystique came into prominence late in her game, owing to the interests of a collection of tone seekers who swore she had the touch for a certain type of pickup. I don't believe the company created the mystique.

Ah-ha. That touches on the question I've been scratching my head over while reading this thread. Roughly WHEN did we all begin to be aware of Abby's name, as Fender's "premium" pickup winder? I guess the rise of the Custom Shop had something to do with it. But I've tried and I'm blowed if I can remember the first time I heard the name of Abigail Ybarras and knew what it was about.

Whenever it was, she'd already been working for the Company for decades by that time.


I first heard of her in about 2005... In frontline magazine I think there was an article about her.

Texas Specials were made for the SRV Strat way back in the '90s. They were designed to get that tone they were so popular that they soon became an aftermarket accessory when fender made them available. In fact, they were the first Customshop after market accessory.

Too much midrange for my liking though :?

Hi Blertles: I have a feeling I might have come across Abby's name in Guitarist magazine articles back in the '90s. Eventually the name must have stuck - but I have a dim memory of an earlier time when I vaguely thought "Abby Pickups" might be a brand, like DiMarzio or whatever. :lol:

I'd just be curious to know when Fender started pushing the name of their senior pickup winder as something they wanted players to care about. I'm pretty sure nobody gave a thought to it in the '70s - which after all is what divebomber is getting at with this thread.

Also, I wonder what the next thing we're all going to find we need to get excited about is? A neck initialled by Jose, perhaps? Or maybe a body sprayed by Mark has that special "something extra"...? :wink:

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+1, my Super Reverb Amp was found out with the trash :shock:

Fortunately it wasn't dropped out of a 24th floor window. I expect that you've heard the Klingon proverb 'revenge is a dish best served cold'?Next time, go directly home from your gig, and don't stay out all night with your groupies. :wink:

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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:11 am
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Also, I wonder what the next thing we're all going to find we need to get excited about is? A neck initialled by Jose, perhaps? Or maybe a body sprayed by Mark has that special "something extra"...? :wink: Cheers - C


Ceri :!: :shock: Ye not been asleep at the mouse now 'ave ye :?: :!: :?: :!:

You want a Clapton guitar, you want Todd Krause to build it.
You want a Buddy Guy guitar, you want Paul Waller to build it.
Buyers wait the time for these Masterbuilders because they build the guitars for the artist in question. They know the nuances.

There was Alain's 'triplet'? The three guitar 'as built for the artist' project by Todd? There was 'ufboy's' Clapton thread on the Custom Shop Forum in which we wrung out the issue of the TBX vs Standard tone pot in the Masterbuilt guitar as well at the midnight vs mercedes blue finish. He didn't go with the standard design, but he finally had Todd build one to his own specs. He also acquired a Brownie Tribute model.

It's been an ongoing fact for years now. :wink:

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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:25 am
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ZZDoc wrote:
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Also, I wonder what the next thing we're all going to find we need to get excited about is? A neck initialled by Jose, perhaps? Or maybe a body sprayed by Mark has that special "something extra"...? :wink: Cheers - C


Ceri :!: :shock: Ye not been asleep now 'ave ye :?: :!: :?: :!:
You want a Clapton guitar, you want Todd Krause to build it.
You want a Buddy Guy guitar, you want Paul Waller to build it.
Buyers wait the time for these Masterbuilders because they build the guitars for the artist in question. They know the nuances.

It's been an ongoing fact for years now. :wink:

Hee-hee - no, I've not been asleep. :)

Mark Kendrick is another Masterbuilder. But if memory serves he started out as a regular factory guy spraying bodies on the line; back in the '80s, I think. I remember a post by him many years ago on TDPRI where he said in his first year he sprayed 49,000 bodies (!!!). So what I was playfully getting at was that if people found "MK" scrawled in the neck pocket of their 1980s factory Strat perhaps it would suddenly start having a similar cache to discovering AY on the pickups.

Something that didn't used to seem important, but with the right kind of PR can now become a USP...

It's all good clean fun.

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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:59 am
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So what I was playfully getting at was that if people found "MK" scrawled in the neck pocket of their 1980s factory Strat perhaps it would suddenly start having a similar cache to discovering AY on the pickups.Something that didn't used to seem important, but with the right kind of PR can now become a USP...It's all good clean fun.Cheers - C

I doubt that there'd be a cache with respect to Kendrick having painted the body, but there are people who've done necks who've acquired a following...like Charvel's then Mike Eldred, and Fender's Jose Moreno who, in 1983, made the 57V[for vintage] replacement neck for David Gilmour's Black Strat, for example. :wink: In that regard, I've contacted Fender about my new guitar and gave them the V# and initials on the neck end and neck pocket. The date on the neck end is 12/87, the year the Custom Shop started up. I'm interested in knowing who was 'on board' there then.

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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:06 am
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I've contacted Fender about my new guitar and gave them the initials on the neck end and neck pocket. That was early Custom Shop and I'm interested in knowing who was 'on board' there then. Nothing I can recognize offhand.

Ha - good move! I wonder what he'll have to say. Let us know...

BTW: On your thread about your red EC, I'm still hoping you might talk some of the newer Forum users through the whole thing about the neck carves on that model. You have interesting stuff to say on that subject, and most here won't have heard about it.

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