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Post subject: Re: Abby pickups in the trash?
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 5:37 am
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Ms Ybarra frequently inked her initials on the bottom of the pickups she wound. Have you opened up your guitar to check the bobbins for an "AY"?
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    It's from my 2010 FSR American Standard with C69s. I recall reading a post on this forum stating that pickups bearing Abby's signature are the ones she wound herself and those bearing her initials are the ones where for which she supervised someone else who did the winding. Now I'm not sure if this is true or not but throw these pups away? :shock: ... No way.

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Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 11:59 am
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There's the difference so stated. Good that we got that on board. What would be interesting to know is if the AY was on the pups her successor wound. :wink:

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Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 1:20 pm
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New pickup winder at Fender is....Anne Young.



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Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 1:21 pm
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New pickup winder at Fender is....Anne Young.



Bazinga!


How convenient!

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Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 1:31 pm
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Well back in the day before e-mail, you tube and social media many guitars with stock pup's were swapped out with Duncans and DiMarzio's. Stock pup's, including Gibson and Fender pickups were not highly collectable or even worth much on a trade in. There was not much of a demand for used stock pickups. Over the years, the market has changed, and people's views have changed towards the stock pickups. I'm assuming that lots of Abby pickups may have unknowingly thrown away for aftermarket pickups. IMHO.


What happens if your stock pickups are original vintage Dimarzios?

What is an "Abby" pickup, btw?

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Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 1:40 pm
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I never seen what the fixation is in those pickups? Mystical Mojo added that no one else does while winding a pickup?

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Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 3:16 pm
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I started owning strats in the early 80's, and I've never seen initials on the pickups. I can imagine that Abby initialed hundreds of pickups a day for 60 years. Back when replacement pickups from DiMarzio and Seymore were the thing, yes, I threw my pickups away. Stock pickups were junk to the modern hum cancelling designs of the 80's. Even guitar tech's were pushing people to the replacement pickup market.


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Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 3:31 pm
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Retroverbial wrote:
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New pickup winder at Fender is....Anne Young. Bazinga!
How convenient! :lol: Arjay

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Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 4:16 pm
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[quote="Bluer Monkey]I haven't been able to find anything "official" from Fender on the signed vs. initialed pickups. Cheers!
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Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 5:22 pm
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We may have learned this thru Mike Eldred on his Forum, but it is known to us.

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Post subject: Re: Abby pickups in the trash?
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 6:41 pm
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Bluer Monkey wrote:
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We may have learned this thru Mike Eldred on his Forum, but it is known to us.

Saved!! Curfew shall not ring tonite. However, the main point yet to be determined relates to something ME alluded to in that thread. What did they ultimately 'figure out' to do with respect to standing orders for Abby-wounds in the pipeline at the time of her retirement. :? :wink:

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Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 6:49 pm
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I never seen what the fixation is in those pickups? Mystical Mojo added that no one else does while winding a pickup?


Because she has worked with fender for many years and she was in the customshop while winding them and she signed them with a pen. That's it as far as I can guess.

I agree on the mojo however. I don't buy into the fact that they were the best or they are highly prized. It's the result of clever marketing of an employee's tenure and their expertise. I mean, they aren't exactly a sound investment and that's what you pay for when you buy an Abby set at a premium.

The quality is as good as SD's, bare knuckles etc.. They just don't market their staff or get them to initial their pickups.

It would be incredibly easy to fake those initials with a marker and dupe someone into a set. I wonder how many people have done it and have been sold on ebay?

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Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 7:01 pm
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I never seen what the fixation is in those pickups? Mystical Mojo added that no one else does while winding a pickup?


Because she has worked with fender for many years and she was in the customshop while winding them and she signed them with a pen. That's it as far as I can guess.

I agree on the mojo however. I don't buy into the fact that they were the best or they are highly prized. It's the result of clever marketing of an employee's tenure and their expertise. I mean, they aren't exactly a sound investment and that's what you pay for when you buy an Abby set at a premium.

The quality is as good as SD's, bare knuckles etc.. They just don't market their staff or get them to initial their pickups.

It would be incredibly easy to fake those initials with a marker and dupe someone into a set. I wonder how many people have done it and have been sold on ebay?

"A diamond is forever"...and so it was that DeBeers, when the South African mother lode was discovered, created the market demand for the engagement ring, much to the dismay of every poor slob who ever asked a woman to marry him. Unfortunately, Abby's mystique came into prominence late in her game, owing to the interests of a collection of tone seekers who swore she had the touch for a certain type of pickup. I don't believe the company created the mystique. It may be connected to an artist or artist[s] whose guitars she wound the pickups for. It would be interesting if someone among us could work that backward to its origins.

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Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 7:16 pm
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Back in 1980-81 I don't know if they were Abby wound but I had grey backs in my first Strat, a 76.
It was the days of Van Halen so you know I had to route it and put in a humbucker.
Then came the days of Randy Roads and I had to buy a Mighty Mite V body.
Matter fact I traded an old beater 70s Les Paul for the body lol.
I was 16 or 17 what did I know?
But yeah sad but true the bridge pickup went in the trash so did the machine heads.
I put in Schallers.
I left the original case and body and pickguard with other two pickups at home when I left for Phoenix Az to start jamming there.
Mom later told me she threw that stuff away when I left, cleaning out my room for my sister.
She had gotten me a V case and I, well... I don't even remember what became of the neck I traded it somewhere in AZ.
I think Arizona Music.
I got a blue burst USA Dean ML.
It was the 80s after all.

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Post subject: Re: Abby pickups in the trash?
Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 4:34 pm
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Unfortunately, Abby's mystique came into prominence late in her game, owing to the interests of a collection of tone seekers who swore she had the touch for a certain type of pickup. I don't believe the company created the mystique.

Ah-ha. That touches on the question I've been scratching my head over while reading this thread. Roughly WHEN did we all begin to be aware of Abby's name, as Fender's "premium" pickup winder? I guess the rise of the Custom Shop had something to do with it. But I've tried and I'm blowed if I can remember the first time I heard the name of Abigail Ybarras and knew what it was about.

Whenever it was, she'd already been working for the Company for decades by that time.

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