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Post subject: Reverb - Digital or Tube?
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 1:52 pm
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Without getting into specifics, I've decided on buying a good quality tube amp. The one I chose is pretty much perfect for me but has digital reverb. The next model up has more wattage than I need but has tube reverb. The difference in price is about $150.
Would anyone consider having tube reverb a strong selling point? I like reverb but don't consider myself a connoisseur, more of a conasewer. Maybe I would become one if I had a good quality unit, I don't know. What say you?

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Post subject: Re: Reverb - Digital or Tube?
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 2:03 pm
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Get the legit reverb. I had an amp with digital effects and they sounded like $@!, so I dumped it and got something with an actual tank.

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Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 2:24 pm
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There are some good reverb pedals but nothing sounds as good as Fender Tube reverb


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Post subject: Re: Reverb - Digital or Tube?
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 3:33 pm
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Go with the tube reverb you'll never look back

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Post subject: Re: Reverb - Digital or Tube?
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 3:51 pm
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Depends on what you want to sound like! I love my Lexicon unit, I mentioned in another thread that it does a good spring reverb as well as delays and modulation effects and it can operate as a hardware plugin for Cubase, sounds brilliant on vocals and snare drums. But then I loved my friend's old Ampeg Reverb-o-rocket with a tube delay you could swim round in.

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Post subject: Re: Reverb - Digital or Tube?
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 4:00 pm
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I played at an open mike jam last night using a Fender tube reverb, it sounded good. The amp I'm thinking about isn't a Fender. After looking into it more, the next model up is going to cost me $400 extra, but there's quite a few extra features that come with that. Like, four channels, tube driven effect loop, multiple power choices for each channel. Looks like I'm just going to have to swallow a bit harder when I finally do it.
My main stumbling block is whether to get a head or combo. The combos weigh a bunch.
Frank, I have a new Eventide pedal with good reverb. I want this amp to be able to stand alone so I can use it with or without pedals.

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Post subject: Re: Reverb - Digital or Tube?
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Unless you're going to run a tube reverb, I never really saw the point of a tube driven effects loop. If you use digital effects then eventually your signal's going to go through transistors and OP amps and DAC's.

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Post subject: Re: Reverb - Digital or Tube?
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 4:23 pm
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Unless you're going to run a tube reverb, I never really saw the point of a tube driven effects loop. If you use digital effects then eventually your signal's going to go through transistors and OP amps and DAC's.

The model with tube effects loop has the tube reverb. I guess I should start a different thread about the tube effects loop since this is about the only amp I've been researching that has it. I'm not sure what advantage it would have.

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Post subject: Re: Reverb - Digital or Tube?
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Like anything in life, there is good digital and there is bad digital.

When you say tube reverb do you mean a tube amp with spring reverb or a true tube-driven reverb? If the price difference is $150 then I suspect it must be the former. Like digital, there is good spring reverb and there is bad spring reverb. I have owned some tube amps with spring reverb that was not good. The spring reverb on my Rivera is the absolute best spring reverb I've ever heard.

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Post subject: Re: Reverb - Digital or Tube?
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:16 pm
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Digital reverb can be good, but to get great reverb you'll need some tubes running it. It is plain and simple Tube reverb sounds best. Will digital reverb work, sure but it just isn't the same and Fender tube reverb is the best out there. But if money is a real issue, then go with what you can afford, just know that somewhere down the road you realize that tube reverb is what you wanted.

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Post subject: Re: Reverb - Digital or Tube?
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:24 pm
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Like anything in life, there is good digital and there is bad digital.

When you say tube reverb do you mean a tube amp with spring reverb or a true tube-driven reverb? If the price difference is $150 then I suspect it must be the former. Like digital, there is good spring reverb and there is bad spring reverb. I have owned some tube amps with spring reverb that was not good. The spring reverb on my Rivera is the absolute best spring reverb I've ever heard.


You might remember from a previous thread that I am thinking of getting an Egnater Renegade 65w. It's descriptions says digital reverb. The next model up is the Tourmaster which is described as tube reverb. The Tourmaster is probably a lot more amp than I need but it does have a lot of nice features. One of them is the power panel that give you six choices for each channel. Since my original post I've looked into it more and the Tourmaster is a $400 upgrade.

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Post subject: Re: Reverb - Digital or Tube?
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 7:11 pm
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Most of my tube combo amps have built in reverb and of course because they're all Fender's, that means *the industry-standard* tube reverb. But one of my pedals features several digitally-simulated types of reverb which work well with my non-verb piggy-back Fenders. I don't rely on reverb all that much so for my purposes, the pedal effects are adequate for the task.

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A quote to mull over whenever you need to consider a more expensive option ...

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Quality will be remembered long after price has been forgotten


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Post subject: Re: Reverb - Digital or Tube?
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:34 pm
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GilgaFrank wrote:
A quote to mull over whenever you need to consider a more expensive option ...

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Quality will be remembered long after price has been forgotten


Sir Henry Royce, founder of Rolls-Royce


I adhere to that point of view often. Besides the increase in cost, the extra tubes etc. contribute to a pretty big increase in heft. So I'm tempering my decision with some consideration to my back. I figure if I leave a piece of equipment home because I don't want to lug it around then it's not doing me any good. I'm still waffling but the answers getting clearer.
Thanks for everyone's advice, you really do help me to sort my way through these gas pains and make somewhat rational decisions. :)

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