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Post subject: Re: Rap.
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:00 pm
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Buxom wrote:


YG is the $@!&.

I guess you need a double digit IQ to appreciate (c)rap. :roll:


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Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:24 pm
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It's funny how I have bad taste when I don't dismiss whole genres.

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Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 6:17 pm
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Let the haters hate :lol: some people just don't know a good jam when they hear it.


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Post subject: Re: Rap.
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 6:39 pm
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cool groove.
if we're talking groove though Aerosmith is the top of that chain with James Brown the godfather and Sly Stones Family the stellar example as well. I didn't see JB live ever but did see the other two and their groove is so strong it's as if the entire place has one heartbeat, band people venue on the same pulsating wave length very unique sensation:

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Post subject: Re: Rap.
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 6:55 pm
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hvDjZ91j9I&hd=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lISBme_Jy28 (I wonder how many people will miss the point with this one)

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZJ-TXpBKCU&hd=1 (RIP Pun)

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Post subject: Re: Rap.
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 6:56 pm
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIPfQ-HtYeM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0D4atmVK9c&hd=1 (RIP Ol' Dirty Bastard) (I can't wait for some idiot to think this song is glorifying the subjects it covers)

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I guess my thread's floor has been thoroughly wiped.

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Post subject: Re: Rap.
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:16 pm
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A lack of of Melody and Harmony?

If you can't hear the melody here, you need ear training.


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Post subject: Re: Rap.
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:01 pm
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Floyd_The_Barber wrote:
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Where's the screaming guitar? Where's the bass playing so fast and melodic it blows your mind? Where the drummer? Where is the 3 part vocal harmonies? Oh yeah, jts rap, its supposed to sound like crap. Look, if someone want to show me rap with a little musicianship, please do. I could give a rats behind about lyrics, I'm interested in the sound of it all. And there is no sound or musicianship in rap. Just a drum loop, some synth sounds, and a whole bunch of lyrics.

You are an idiot. I'm not even going to bother with you, because you have shown, time and time again, that you know f*ck all about music. You are a lost cause; you will forever remain a product of the starry eyed nostalgia of your parents' generation. You are doomed to a lifetime lived in ignorance of anything outside of your incredibly small bubble.


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Post subject: Re: Rap.
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:49 pm
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Floyd_The_Barber wrote:
I've found that a lot of the "HURR CAN'T SPEL CRAP WITHUT RAP LOLOLOLOLOLOLOOLLLO" crowd range from mildly, unknowingly racist, to outright bigots. For the mild, subconscious ones, it's that this rough, "dangerous" culture is foreign to them, and they simply don't get it, which leads to all the talk of "ITZ JUST SWEARING GUNZ HOS MONEY DRUGS IGNORANT UNEDUCATED". Funny enough, the "classic rock" (often vapid white d00d blooz rawk) they love so much often centers around similar themes. 70s hard rock is a hell of a lot more misogynistic, greedy, and drug fueled than hip hop has ever been. With the actual bigots, well, hip hop is associated with black people, and bigots are bigots.

At the end of the day, anyone who dismisses an entire genre of music, especially a genre as diverse as hip hop (it is called HIP HOP, not "RAP". Rapping is a vocal style often found in hip hop, it is not the genre.) is the real ignorant one. I'd assume better things about someone who loves loud, ignorant trap (like YG, who Buxom posted) than someone who dismisses the genre as a whole.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HGxnJdT2s0&hd=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YABLsFK8gjY&hd=1

more examples incoming, forum is formatted terribly and only allows 2 URLs per post




(ps taking multiple samples and forming them into something coherent, that can be rapped over, takes a hell of a lot more talent and effort than most of the middling s*** I see you people talking about all the time.)


Uh... Has it ever occurred to you that you have to be a Bigot to call someone else one... ??

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Post subject: Re: Rap.
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 10:40 pm
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Floyd_The_Barber wrote:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HGxnJdT2s0&hd=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YABLsFK8gjY&hd=1

more examples incoming, forum is formatted terribly and only allows 2 URLs per post




(ps taking multiple samples and forming them into something coherent, that can be rapped over, takes a hell of a lot more talent and effort than most of the middling s*** I see you people talking about all the time.)



Floyd, the lyric content of those two vids is too dissonant and good examples of what I'd referred to in a post earlier on this thread, thankyou for posting those. Your comment about coherent sampling taking talent + effort is right on.

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Post subject: Re: Rap.
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:06 pm
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Floyd_The_Barber wrote:
... more examples incoming, forum is formatted terribly and only allows 2 URLs per post


Oh God... PLEASE don't ! :(

When people refer to the 'Weight of your arguement', they're speaking metaphorically... They don't actually mean the weight of your arguement.

If you cannot make your point without posting a plethora of links, then maybe you're not very good at communicating. Most people simply don't care, and even more won't take the time to explore all these links... it's just not that important.

Of course, there's also the alternative, namely, that you didn't have much of an arguement to begin with.

In either case, just let it go ! :roll:

After calling people Idiots and Bigots and debasing the Forum, persistence beyond this point by you will only cause some to believe that perhaps you were one of those children who 'didn't Play Well with others' !

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Post subject: Re: Rap.
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:27 pm
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One thing worth bearing in mind with hip hop in the more recent decades, especially this last one, is that the artists started having to properly clear the samples they use through legal channels, which essentially means cutting in the original artist in on the royalties.

In some cases this can lead to the musicians on the original song actually having a more successful hit through the samples the rap artist used.


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Post subject: Re: Rap.
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 12:56 am
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Well i guess hip hop & R&B is popular music -sadly enough for some who have grown up to rock and all the greats out there- It's probably more so than rock is these days. But If we can learn to listen and appreciate it even in the slightest way- then you can listen to any type of music with an open mind.

That having said, I'd expect everyone who is a musician to have an interest and an open mind about all types of music and accept it as it is and not write it off. You don't necessarily have to like it, but at least you can listen and appreciate where it came from with an open mind.

Hiphop like music, is an art. If you don't think so, then you would agree that poetry is not an art. If you don't like it, then thats fine. Nobody has asked anyone to like anything. But as musicians, we should appreciate it as a form of music and not noise.

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