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Post subject: Re: Rap.
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:38 pm
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Music timeline:
Blues and rock combine 8) > British Invasion :mrgreen: > Decades of awesome Rock! :D > War on drugs > cRap :(
I'm not suggesting that anyone use drugs, but the logic is impenetrable.

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Post subject: Re: Rap.
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 3:02 pm
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Deluxe Matt wrote:
Music timeline:
Blues and rock combine 8) > British Invasion :mrgreen: > Decades of awesome Rock! :D > War on drugs > cRap :(
I'm not suggesting that anyone use drugs, but the logic is impenetrable.



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Post subject: Re: Rap.
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 3:18 pm
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Deluxe Matt wrote:
Decades of awesome Rock!


Too many decades of rock. It's been done to death and there's no originality in rock any more. It's all derivative, copies of copies of copies and the same tired old "woah baby let's rock and roll" lyrical tedium. And endless guitar solos, the same sad tired old riffs regurgitating the pentatonic scale over and over. Rap may be worthless but at least it's (relatively) new.

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Post subject: Re: Rap.
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 3:20 pm
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IMO, the early years of rap from the 1970's and early 80's ,had some pretty innovative stuff compared to the crap that is out today. Now it's just a parody of what it used to be and originally stood for.


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Post subject: Re: Rap.
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 3:58 pm
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IMO, the early years of rap from the 1970's and early 80's ,had some pretty innovative stuff compared to the crap that is out today. Now it's just a parody of what it used to be and originally stood for.


Isn't that what I just said about rock music?

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Post subject: Re: Rap.
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 7:24 pm
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Rap is just the rebellion against rock and roll, just like rock and roll was rebellion.

[youtube]http://youtu.be/yzt0SJr86s4[/youtube]

[youtube]http://youtu.be/EKMoZ8kBYvQ[/youtube]

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Post subject: Re: Rap.
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 8:29 pm
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Although I view the genre as a celebration of immaturity, I do have a soft spot for some of the classics.

removed vid, didn't realize it was that explicit.

Youtube > "It's so cold in the D"

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Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:02 pm
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Had to laugh when someone describes it as a celebration of immaturity and seconds later has to remove a video because of the explicit lyrics, that just about says it all. An immature cussing contest with a drum machine.

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Post subject: Re: Rap.
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:43 pm
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So you're saying that someone with a musical idea isn't a musician?

$@!& that. Being a musician isn't some pissing contest about who can push the limit of their instrument, if it were there'd be more drummers who can actually play precisely and aggressively enough to actually do rap beats.

You're also missing the fact that rap has digitized versions to fill the rolls of a band. Usually some kind of synth is lead and rhythm, then bass and percussion.

I know plenty of people who try to rap and suck at it (I used to write rap a lot, awaiting on my bl00z lawyer to show up to testify in music court) I know plenty of people with instruments who can't do a damn thing with it, yet act like they're the $@!&. I also know plenty of people who put their heart and soul into both, and do a damn good job of it. Owning a physical representation of "who you are" as a musician doesn't make you a musician, it's putting that rubber to the road with a musical idea.

And let's not forget how vulgar rock can be, since the topic of vulgarity has been brought up. You guys are all about "musical freedom" or w/e until someone says something that isn't safe, uses a digital interface (heaven forbid :roll: ) or happens to be black. (yea, I'm sure it isn't mentioned, but race is an issue most old white guys don't mention for fear of white guilt)

tl;dr: rappers are musicians whether you like it or not.

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Post subject: Re: Rap.
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Take Eminem for example. Aside from his subject matter, how many of you can spit out lyrics like him without getting into a toungue twister. not many, myself included.

Why do we praise mediocrity these days? Single-syllable rhymes that often don't even rhyme? Since when does "pen" rhyme with "sin"?

People sang more advanced rhymes and tongue twisting lyrics before he was born. Your honor, I bring you Exhibits A and B:




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Post subject: Re: Rap.
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:57 pm
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tl;dr: rappers are musicians whether you like it or not.


I'm not saying it isn't music. Music can be defined as a sequence of organised sounds, rap is certainly a sequence of sounds. I'm merely saying that it requires very little talent to produce those sounds and the end result is artistically worthless.

And Tom Lehrer ... that really is lyrical genius. See also "We will all go together". Even if you don't like the musical style you have to admit that it takes some talent to write like that. I'd include Flanders and Swann too and Noel Coward ...




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Post subject: Re: Rap.
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 11:18 pm
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Freestyling takes talent bruh. I don't know how it's artistically worthless, especially because it's digital and expresses negative emotion. Lots of differenttypes of art are digital, why should music be excluded? Also, not all rap is negative. You guys are probably thinking of Regan era attempts to ban gangster rap and haven't put thought into the fact that rap was in its infancy at the time and that rap was steadily evolving as well. Most of you guys aren't educated about a genre that was probably born in your lifetime, and it's not just rap either. It's all the $@!& that deviates from your comfort zone, and rap just happens to strike every nerve.

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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 12:04 am
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Can't believe I was so slow to realize.

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Post subject: Re: Rap.
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 12:16 am
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Yea, shitpost your way out of a losing argument. Classic /b/ehavior.

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