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Post subject: Re: Rap.
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:54 pm
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What? More so than the seemingly endless gun references posted on this forum. That I for one find offensive.
Or the US Senates opinion that women have no say over their own body?


I ain't the one crossing boundaries pal.

wow I'm almost speechless on this one. Not crossing boundaries my $@!


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Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 8:49 pm
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Do you need a spoon to stir the pot by any chance? :mrgreen:


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Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 5:17 am
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Do you need a spoon to stir the pot by any chance? :mrgreen:

Man, you don't need a spoon for that. A Zippo and your thumb works great.
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Suppose you look at this from another angle...for instance, say you're out on the road giggin' in roadhouses, pubs and dives for about $50/gig after expenses.

Some hip-hop manager raps (pun intended!) on your door (or hits you up on the phone) and offers you $200K to do a 10 month tour - would you take it or not?

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Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:01 pm
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53magnatone wrote:

Here is where I digress in this format....
The nauseating derogatory nature of referring to women as bitches to be subdued and basically used as disposable objects... ( I'm sure there is no need to graphically illustrate )..
The endless glorification of load and lock of yo Glock... followed by the senseless rise to arms chant (rant) of getting even in the hood..... No need for me to further illustrate..



It's almost as if you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

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Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:05 pm
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"Kill You"
by Eminem

When I was just a little baby boy,
my momma used to tell me these crazy things
She used to tell me my daddy was an evil man,
she used to tell me he hated me
But then I got a little bit older
and I realized, she was the crazy one
But there was nothing I could do or say to try to change it
cause that's just the way she was

They said I can't rap about being broke no more
They ain't say I can't rap about coke no more
(AH!) $@!$, you think I won't choke no $@!&#
'til the vocal cords don't work in her throat no more?!
(AH!) These motherfuckers are thinking I'm playing
Thinking I'm saying the $@!& cause I'm thinking it just to be saying it
(AH!) Put your hands down $@!&*, I ain't gonna shoot you
I'ma pull +YOU+ to this bullet, and put it through you
(AH!) Shut up $@!$, you're causing too much chaos
Just bend over and take it like a $@!$, OK Ma?
"Oh, now he's raping his own mother, abusing a $@!&#,
snorting coke, and we gave him the Rolling Stone cover?"
You god damn right $@!&*, and now it's too late
I'm triple platinum and tragedies happen in two states
I invented violence, you vile venomous volatile bitches
vain Vicadin, vrinnn Vrinnn, VRINNN! [*chainsaw revs up*]
Texas Chainsaw, left his brains all
dangling from his neck, while his head barely hangs on
Blood, guts, guns, cuts
Knives, lives, wives, nuns, sluts
[Chorus: Eminem]

$@!&* I'ma kill you! You don't wanna $@!& with me
Girls neither - you ain't nothing but a $@!$ to me
$@!&* I'ma kill you! You ain't got the balls to beef
We ain't gonna never stop beefing I don't squash the beef
You better kill me! I'ma be another rapper dead
for popping off at the mouth with $@!& I shouldn't said
But when they kill me - I'm bringing the world with me
Bitches too! You ain't nothing but a girl to me
.. I said you don't, wanna $@!& with Shady (cause why?)
Cause Shady, will #$@*&!% kill you (ah-ha ha)
I said you don't, wanna $@!& with Shady (why?)
Cause Shady, will #$@*&!% kill you..

[Eminem]
$@!&* I'ma kill you! Like a murder weapon, I'ma conceal you
in a closet with mildew, sheets, pillows and film you
Buck with me, I been through hell, shut the hell up!
I'm trying to develop these pictures of the Devil to sell 'em
I ain't "acid rap," but I rap on acid
Got a new blow-up doll and just had a strap-on added
WHOOPS! Is that a subliminal hint? NO!
Just criminal intent to sodomize women again
Eminem offend? NO! Eminem insult

And if you ever give in to him, you give him an impulse
to do it again, THEN, if he does it again
you'll probably end up jumping out of something up on the 10th
(Ah!) $@!&* I'ma kill you, I ain't done this ain't the chorus
I ain't even drug you in the woods yet to paint the forest

A bloodstain is orange after you wash it three or four times
in a tub but that's normal ain't it Norman?
Serial killer hiding murder material
in a cereal box on top of your stereo
Here we go again, we're out of our medicine
out of our minds, and we want in yours, let us in

[Chorus (first line starts "Or I'ma kill you!")]

[Eminem]
Eh-heh, know why I say these things?
Cause lady's screams keep creeping in Shady's dreams
And the way things seem, I shouldn't have to pay these shrinks
this eighty G's a week to say the same things TWEECE!
TWICE? Whatever, I hate these things
$@!& shots! I hope the weed'll outweigh these drinks
Motherfuckers want me to come on their radio shows
just to argue with 'em cause their ratings stink?
$@!& THAT! I'll choke radio announcer to bouncer
from fat $@!&* to off seventy-thousand pounds of her
from principal to the student body and counselor
from in-school to before school to out of school
I don't even believe in breathing I'm leaving air in your lungs
just to hear you keep screaming for me to seep it
OK, I'M READY TO GO PLAY
I GOT THE MACHETE FROM O.J.
I'M READY TO MAKE EVERYONE'S THROAT ACHE

You faggots keep egging me on
'til I have you at knifepoint, then you beg me to stop?
SHUT UP! Give me your hands and feet
I said SHUT UP when I'm talking to you
YOU HEAR ME? ANSWER ME!


1) You mean a guy going for shock value said something offensive?!?!?!?!! HOLY SH*T STOP THE PRESSES.

2) The sophomoric, ignorant subject matter does not detract from the skill required to write multi-syllabic rhymes and flow like Eminem does.

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Post subject: Re: Rap.
Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:07 pm
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tbazzone wrote:
nikininja wrote:
What? More so than the seemingly endless gun references posted on this forum. That I for one find offensive.
Or the US Senates opinion that women have no say over their own body?


I ain't the one crossing boundaries pal.

wow I'm almost speechless on this one. Not crossing boundaries my $@!

He's not wrong.

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Floyd_The_Barber wrote:
2) The sophomoric, ignorant subject matter does not detract from the skill required to write multi-syllabic rhymes and flow like Eminem does.


More like hillbilly rhyming. I hate to tell you, but "hot whips" doesn't rhyme with "got $@!&".
The guy isn't exactly Tom Lehrer.


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Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 10:37 pm
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If you think Rap isn't music you either know nothing about music or more likely know nothing about rap.

Guitars also have a long history in rap music and a lot of live shows, like the Jay Z and Kanye show I saw last year actually play out with a live band.

I'm happy to go further into it but unfortunately I've found trying to discuss this with people who just don't like the genre of music is an entirely pointless exercise.


Edit: Apologies also if I've come across a little brash here, it's just a genre I care quite strongly for and it can be frustrating how easily it gets written off by people, it's certainly nothing personal! :D


I would concede to the latter, not the former !

I totally respect your opinion (and those legions who would likely back you up)... but it is an UNINFORMED opinion !

Likewise, I would respect your opinion to call a Cow a Horse... but that doesn't make it so.

Music is a very accepting form of expression.

Whether it be Swahili Drums, Korean Gayageum, Buddhist Tantric Chanting, or playing Spoons, all comply with the 'rules' of Music.

RAP, whether accompanied by music or not, simply does NOT comply. It's very name denotes Speaking rather than Singing !

If you Love it... GREAT ! More Power to you !

Just don't confuse it with Music... it's NOT !

If you choose not to discuss it further, it's more likely your opposition to accept reality than anyone's dislike of the artform.

BTW, I don't necessarily dislike it... What I don't like is it being mis-labled as Music and sucking resources and opportunities from True Musicians !

Poetry and Music have coexisted in harmony for millenia. I'm sure that RAP could do the same.

Cheers!

Sorry sir but your opinion is not fact. I've seen live rap shows that are backed by a full band. If it wasn't music then non of that would be necessary. Different strokes for different folks. Personally I think rap died with Tupac and Biggie. There's nothing after them that I like.

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Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 11:24 pm
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1neeto wrote:
I've seen live rap shows that are backed by a full band. If it wasn't music then non of that would be necessary.

By that definition, David Copperfield and circus horses are musicians too.


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Floyd_The_Barber wrote:
2) The sophomoric, ignorant subject matter does not detract from the skill required to write multi-syllabic rhymes and flow like Eminem does.


More like hillbilly rhyming. I hate to tell you, but "hot whips" doesn't rhyme with "got $@!&".
The guy isn't exactly Tom Lehrer.


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