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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 6:53 pm
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The most innovative and influential (and tragic):

Jaco Pastorius -- Weather Report

James Jamerson -- Funk Bros.


I watched a video on YouTube last night. It was Jaco, John McLaughlin and Al DiMeola. All acoustic, totally amazing. It's perfomances like that that show me there's no one in any genre of rock who can compare to the genius that exsists in jazz, classical and flamenco. I know there's shredders out there who will disagree vehemently, but they're just wrong.

Ok, metalheads...hit me with the hate button!!! :lol:

You beg the question, whats more genius? A guy who can play in 8/7 time, with shifthing tempos, and ambiguous key signatures, cleanly and accuratley, with no klinckers , or a guy who raises the hair on your neck with the first note of a standard Three Chord Blues (ya know like Buddy Guy on Damn Right I Got the Blues)?


That's a damn good question. I should quantify myself and say I was speaking about technical virtuosity. You're right, genius doesn't always refer to virtuosity in music. I consider Gilmour a genius and he's by no means a virtuoso guitar player. Sometimes genius is just the outstanding ability to convey emotion with your instrument.

Of couse it's possible to have both, like Al Dimeola and John McLaughlin. Then there Al Pitrelli, who has Been in Megadeth, Savatage, and The Tran-Siberian Ochestra. I like his Trans-Siberian stuff best, but his stint in Megadeth is worth checking out ("World Need a Hero" CD "Rude Awakening" DVD).

That's why it's so hard to like one Genere of Music. I used to hate Speed Metal and Thrash, until I heard the right songs (Megedth's "Lucerita" is what did it for me).


No way I could limit myself to one genre. There's far too much talent to be missed that way. I never have been able to get into the speed metal thing. I know there are some great musicians there(Steve Vai). But my guess would be that most couldn't duplicate their shredding ability on a classical guitar. That's why I love the likes of Dimeloa. He can do on nylon what most need ultra high gain's sensitivity and lots of legato to achieve.

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cryingstrat wrote:
FirstMeasure wrote:
cryingstrat wrote:
FirstMeasure wrote:
cryingstrat wrote:
stratmansteve wrote:
The most innovative and influential (and tragic):

Jaco Pastorius -- Weather Report

James Jamerson -- Funk Bros.


I watched a video on YouTube last night. It was Jaco, John McLaughlin and Al DiMeola. All acoustic, totally amazing. It's perfomances like that that show me there's no one in any genre of rock who can compare to the genius that exsists in jazz, classical and flamenco. I know there's shredders out there who will disagree vehemently, but they're just wrong.

Ok, metalheads...hit me with the hate button!!! :lol:

You beg the question, whats more genius? A guy who can play in 8/7 time, with shifthing tempos, and ambiguous key signatures, cleanly and accuratley, with no klinckers , or a guy who raises the hair on your neck with the first note of a standard Three Chord Blues (ya know like Buddy Guy on Damn Right I Got the Blues)?


That's a damn good question. I should quantify myself and say I was speaking about technical virtuosity. You're right, genius doesn't always refer to virtuosity in music. I consider Gilmour a genius and he's by no means a virtuoso guitar player. Sometimes genius is just the outstanding ability to convey emotion with your instrument.

Of couse it's possible to have both, like Al Dimeola and John McLaughlin. Then there Al Pitrelli, who has Been in Megadeth, Savatage, and The Tran-Siberian Ochestra. I like his Trans-Siberian stuff best, but his stint in Megadeth is worth checking out ("World Need a Hero" CD "Rude Awakening" DVD).

That's why it's so hard to like one Genere of Music. I used to hate Speed Metal and Thrash, until I heard the right songs (Megedth's "Lucerita" is what did it for me).


No way I could limit myself to one genre. There's far too much talent to be missed that way. I never have been able to get into the speed metal thing. I know there are some great musicians there(Steve Vai). But my guess would be that most couldn't duplicate their shredding ability on a classical guitar. That's why I love the likes of Dimeloa. He can do on nylon what most need ultra high gain's sensitivity and lots of legato to achieve.

You're right about that, but the same can be said for the opposite. I saw a classical purists try to tame an Overdriven Telecaster, it was like listening to your freinds kid brother pick up your guitar. It was on an old Cheesy Documentary about Rock Guitar done in 1990, the best part was listening to what they thought was dead and gone and what they felt the future was going to be like. Self tought musicians were supposed to be a thing of the past and MIT graduates were going to be the only capable guitarists :lol:

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None of them is amongst 'the best' but John Lodge(The Moody Blues), Rick Danko(The Band) and the bass player from Supertramp(don't know his name) is the bassists I enjoy the most


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My other half would say Geddy Lee. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-JD5AdCpY4

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