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Post subject: Re: 25th Anniversary On Bass
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:33 pm
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I've liked The Cure ever since I first heard the compilation album "Staring At The Sea" with such catchy songs as "Love Cats" and "Lets Go To Bed" but what turned me into a committed fanatic was their "Kiss Me,Kiss Me,Kiss Me" album with songs like "Why Can't I Be You","The Catch" and the angst filled "The Kiss".

To continue with the bass rig topic, the bass player of my last band had a Peavey TNT bass combo but he added a Peavey extension cabinet with an 18" Peavey bass speaker in it and it turned what was already a great bass amp into a earth-shaking thunder machine. He used a beautiful 1972 Jazz Bass with a natural finish,maple neck and square black position markers in the maple fretboard.He pampered that bass like it had been made by Antonio Stradivari and there was never as much as a smudged finger print on it. Even though the Jazz was an incredible guitar he constantly pestered me to trade my old 1966 Vox Astro IV Model V-273 Violin Bass for his Jazz Bass and even though it was incredibly tempting-because I love Jazz basses because of the sound and the skinny neck which was perfect for my smallish hands-I refused to trade,much to his chagrin because it sounded absolutely huge through his Peavey amp and cabinet especially with the built-in Bass Boost and Fuzz engaged.Cheers.

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Post subject: Re: 25th Anniversary On Bass
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 5:10 pm
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"Staring At The Sea" was the second recording I bought from them, after "Disintegration." I got that because at that point I was completely unfamiliar with their music, sans one album, and I figured it was a good way to start by having a sample of everything. That's what I usually did when I started getting music from bands I discovered. If there was a compilation, I'll get that first to familiarize myself with their back catalog, then I'll get the rest when I could. "Kiss Me" reminds me off painting my parent's garage, some 20 odd years ago when they had their old house. It's an odd association, but that's what I was listening to when I did it.

Speaking of Peavey (which the Cure used in the 80's,) I actually had Simon's rig and sound at one point. I had a P-Bass going through a Boss chorus pedal going into a Mark IV, which at one point he used. I think he got one of those Mega Bass or Max Bass heads (?) with the 18"s and 10"s after that. I think that amp was in the "Orange" video and might have been in the "Fascination Street" video. I think the Peavey 18" and 10" cab combo was one hell of a rig. I never had one (wouldn't mind one, though) but I played through the 15"s. I'm willing to bet almost everybody who held a bass in the 80's has probably played through that 2x15" cab at one point or another. :P It was a common staple in plug in and play rehearsal places, too. Well, at least where I lived originally.

I don't blame you for not trading your Vox for that Jazz Bass. As much as I like Jazz Basses, I'd rather have the Vox. I'd wouldn't get rid of that bass if I was you, either. The closest I ever got to play through a violin type, or I suppose you'd call it a Beatles bass, was one of those Jay Turser models that I spotted in a local shop window. I went in and tried it out and once I got accustomed to it's light weight and size (a little awkward, at first,) I was flying up and down the neck. It was a pretty decent bass, actually. I'd imagine it would sound even better with some flats for the full effect.

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Post subject: Re: 25th Anniversary On Bass
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 5:55 pm
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In the late 60's, there was a violin style bass from Italy. The Eko. A well made, good sounding instrument. I believe they are still available today.

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Post subject: Re: 25th Anniversary On Bass
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 6:50 pm
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Yes they are: http://www.ekoguitars.it/ They have that violin bass, and that pointy rocket-shaped one. They use to have other models, but it looks like they cut down on what they offer now.

Here's another site in case anyone is interested with Eko and the other brands associated with that era. It's full of all kinds of goodies. http://www.fetishguitars.com/

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Post subject: Re: 25th Anniversary On Bass
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 6:08 am
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I was looking through some old pictures on my computer. I found this one taken at a family reunion in 1983. I'm on the far right and my uncle is on my right (Dusty) playing lead guitar. I can't identify his guitar....anyone :?:
I'm playing my '75 p-bass and you can see part of my old Peavey rig on the right edge of the picture. This is the bass and rig that I still have. :D
The guy playing the acoustic (Sid) was the bass player in my uncles band at the time. Those two played together for years. I remember Sid watching me like a hawk as I played the bass that day. Those guys were my heroes, so I was a little self conscious.
The fiddle player second from the left (Benny) actually played for awhile with the Bob Wills Texas Playboys sometime in the mid/late 60's. I can't remember exactly when or if Bob Wills was still around when he did.
One thing the picture has shown me, I remembered replacing the pups in the p-bass within a couple of years after I bought it (1978). Those are the original pups in this pic, so after thinking about it for awhile, it had to be a year or two after this picture was taken. So that would make it 1984/85 when I replaced them.
Man-o-man....I can't remember when I replaced the pups....or when Benny played with the Playboys....or if Bob Wills was still around when he did....but I can still play and sing every word of some of those songs from back then! :shock: :? :lol:

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P.S. I even still have that strap. I used it for several years and it's in good shape. :shock:

Check out this thread for recent pics of my old rig; http://forums.fender.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=88251

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Post subject: Re: 25th Anniversary On Bass
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 6:15 am
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I can't remember the exact month but it was in summer of '88 I bought my first bass. It was an Ibanez lawsuit copy Rickenbacher 4001.....played very smooth but damn that thing was huge! The amp I played it through was an ancient Panasonic that used to be used by my dad's polka band! Funky little amp but it had a "waveform" setting built in that was fun to play with.

Had that for a couple years, eventually upped to a newer Ibanez with active pickups that I had until I got my first Musicmaster. Up until that time in the pre-web days I had no idea that short scale basses even existed. That Musicmaster is a '78 and I still have it to this day along with a '97 Squier version and an SX.


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Post subject: Re: 25th Anniversary On Bass
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 5:22 pm
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I was looking through some old pictures on my computer. I found this one taken at a family reunion in 1983. I'm on the far right and my uncle is on my right (Dusty) playing lead guitar. I can't identify his guitar....anyone :?:
I'm playing my '75 p-bass and you can see part of my old Peavey rig on the right edge of the picture. This is the bass and rig that I still have. :D
The guy playing the acoustic (Sid) was the bass player in my uncles band at the time. Those two played together for years. I remember Sid watching me like a hawk as I played the bass that day. Those guys were my heroes, so I was a little self conscious.
The fiddle player second from the left (Benny) actually played for awhile with the Bob Wills Texas Playboys sometime in the mid/late 60's. I can't remember exactly when or if Bob Wills was still around when he did.
One thing the picture has shown me, I remembered replacing the pups in the p-bass within a couple of years after I bought it (1978). Those are the original pups in this pic, so after thinking about it for awhile, it had to be a year or two after this picture was taken. So that would make it 1984/85 when I replaced them.
Man-o-man....I can't remember when I replaced the pups....or when Benny played with the Playboys....or if Bob Wills was still around when he did....but I can still play and sing every word of some of those songs from back then! :shock: :? :lol:

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P.S. I even still have that strap. I used it for several years and it's in good shape. :shock:

Check out this thread for recent pics of my old rig; http://forums.fender.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=88251


That's some real country there. None of that heavily Autotuned pop with twang like you hear these days. I think Peavey and Fender go with old school country like peanut butter and jelly. When I was a kid I listened to a lot of country, watched Hee Haw, and went to all kinds of shows, jamborees, and such with my parents. I remember seeing a lot of those amps, now that I think about it. It's probably where I learned how to write songs (although I'm terrible at lyrics,) long before I even thought about playing music. I think it ingrained into me, even though I never played that type of music. I also listened to rock music as well. I even watched Lawrence Welk with my grandparents and since they were Russian immigrants, some Russian folk music and whatever 40's type music they had. When I think about it, I had an oddly diverse background with music growing up. I didn't think anything of it when I was a teenager starting out, but now I've reflected about how much different things really could have had in impact.

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Post subject: Re: 25th Anniversary On Bass
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 5:29 pm
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WI KISSfan wrote:
I can't remember the exact month but it was in summer of '88 I bought my first bass. It was an Ibanez lawsuit copy Rickenbacher 4001.....played very smooth but damn that thing was huge! The amp I played it through was an ancient Panasonic that used to be used by my dad's polka band! Funky little amp but it had a "waveform" setting built in that was fun to play with.

Had that for a couple years, eventually upped to a newer Ibanez with active pickups that I had until I got my first Musicmaster. Up until that time in the pre-web days I had no idea that short scale basses even existed. That Musicmaster is a '78 and I still have it to this day along with a '97 Squier version and an SX.


That's interesting that Panasonic made an amplifier. Do you still have it? Now I'm curious to know the story behind this.

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Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 6:15 pm
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The guitar looks like a Peavy, maybe. I remember the first working band I worked in, a polka band. Me and my Coral bass and Randall amp. We were so cool! Matching paisley vests, black pants and white shirts.

The accordian player and his brother(on sax) were really good. I had no idea what the hell I was doing.

I learned a very valuable lesson! Chicks dig the guys in the band! :mrgreen:

We played at halls where whole families came out, always outrageous food and the girls were drug along by their parents. :wink:


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Post subject: Re: 25th Anniversary On Bass
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 7:25 pm
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Yeah that was pure country being played back then......and played good too. I have been lucky enough to play with those guys several times through the years. Even a make shift band like the one at our reunions were tighter than most bands I hear today. I know I always felt like a better player when I played with them. It was just so easy, effortless. Don't know why we didn't have a steel guitar that year. Usually did.
I believe your right about my uncle's guitar being a Peavey. I had forgot that he had that. Don't think he kept it very long. I know that he did play a few Gibson's and of course Fenders. He seemed to have a different guitar everytime I saw him, but he's played a Tele for several years now......different ones though! :lol:
OETA, Oklahoma's Public Television, aired a show about the pioneer tv stations in Oklahoma. Channel 10 out of Ada, OK, my uncles hometown, was one of the very first. His band played on a country & western show at that station for years, late 50's through the late 60's. The show had several shots of my uncle playing guitar. It was a Jaguar!

Funny story; Willie Nelson played his guitar during his show once at Ken Lance Dance Arena in Ada. Probably sometime around the mid 70's. Just right before Waylon, Willie and the boys broke out with their outlaw country.
The owner, Ken Lance, said to my uncle, "Bet you would like a picture of that."
My uncle said, "No, but Willie might want one." :lol:

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Post subject: Re: 25th Anniversary On Bass
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:21 pm
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I thought that guitar might have been a Peavey, because the body shape, too. It reminds me of one of those T-40 series, but I can't really make out the head stock. I have seen old Peavey guitars that looked similar. Speaking of Peavey guitars, I use to have a Peavey Tele copy that I got as part of a package deal with a Rage 158 amp back in the mid 90's. They were still made in the US and it was a decent guitar. I used that amp for my 4-track demo recordings, since it had a line out. I recorded bass through it as well. I needed a cheap guitar, since I didn't have one, to play around with since that isn't my main instrument, and it fit the bill nicely. I think it was called a "Predator" or something like that.

Speaking of Polka, I will admit I've become a fan in the past couple of years. I have the RFD channel on DirecTV and they have a show called "Mollie B's Polka Party" which my girlfriend and I watch all of the time. There is a few players on stage with a P-Bass when there is a band with an electric bass instead of tuba. There was one guy playing a P-Bass through an huge SVT tube stack in one band, which I thought was something else. I guess those horns can get quite loud. :P I just find the music fun and unpretentious. It's just people having a good time without any drama or other B.S. like there can be with the genre of music I play, which is sad but true. Artistically, I wouldn't be satisfied playing this (as well as other genres,) but it doesn't mean I can't enjoy listening to it, or even participate in a show. Although, I don't think I can dance to save my life, but there's usually some "oat soda" refreshments that I could participate with. :P

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Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 1:22 am
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Funny how threads evolve and change, but I like it!


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Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 7:35 am
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Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 8:53 am
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Anniversaries seem to cause us to reflect on what we have experienced through the years. Brings back forgotten memories.....past gigs, people we played with, guitars & gear we onced owned, musical influnces, etc...
This forum is great for sharing information on guitars and other gear. It's been real helpful to me, but I for one, also like sharing and reading about others and what they have personally experienced. People's stories gives a little insight and helps me know/understand them a little better, or at least as well as you can over the internet.
JMHO, but I think this thread has just progressed naturally.

But to get back on track to the OP's original subject.....

Happy 25th Anniversary On Bass CPL!

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Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 10:28 am
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Yes they are: http://www.ekoguitars.it/ They have that violin bass, and that pointy rocket-shaped one. They use to have other models, but it looks like they cut down on what they offer now.

Here's another site in case anyone is interested with Eko and the other brands associated with that era. It's full of all kinds of goodies. http://www.fetishguitars.com/


Eko also did a few Artist Series knock-offs, if my memory serves.

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