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Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:17 pm
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Try talking to them instead. This type of behavior is childish and serves no purpose.

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Hi John, I listened to the track and it sounds like you are just playing around on the guitar. It sounds ok some nice feedback now and then, I hope that your neighbors liked it :lol:

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Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:33 pm
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bluesky636 wrote:
Try talking to them instead. This type of behavior is childish and serves no purpose.

May well be the best option Bill if it was just now and again but three/four in the morning all weekend when someone bangs on their stereo and parties like no tomorrow banging on the floor and walls to their sectarian songs mate I'd rather wait until their hangovers are just kicking in and live the dream, let them come talk to me........had this scenario a while back they eventually moved away and all's well, I was just messing about with some reverse reverb and thought this would do nicely should I be unlucky enough to have the same scenario occur twas all it was, I'll change the thread name :D


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Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:36 pm
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Hi John, I listened to the track and it sounds like you are just playing around on the guitar. It sounds ok some nice feedback now and then, I hope that your neighbors liked it :lol:

Just messin, saw Dereks post in another thread about Jimi recording in reverse and got carried away :lol:


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Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:15 pm
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That was actually pretty awesome!

If you were my neighbor, I would ask you to please teach me a few licks! 8)

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bluesky636 wrote:
Try talking to them instead. This type of behavior is childish and serves no purpose.


I gotta say, it must be real nice to live in a neighborhood like your sunny little town Pleasantville there, where you can actually talk to your neighbors, but understand this; not everyone is as blessed or fortunate as you apparently are. Here in Lorain, Ohio it's mostly getto trash in my immediate area and they'd just assume crap in your lawn or shoot you, as look at you. Sorry my friend but in this hood you just do -NOT- speak with your neighbors for ANYTHING unless you want a bullet straight thru the skull. Don't even get me started on the f_cking damn fireworks in this neighborhood...it's amazing that these people have to have food stamps in order to eat, but they always seem to have money for H-100's to blow off at 2 in the morning from Memorial day up thru August!!!! Further, this is also an area where you can very literally get a pizza delivered faster than you can get a cop. Lorain cops can take up to an hour and a half or more to respond to a call...-IF- they can be bothered to respond at all (they have actually flat out refused to respond to shots fired in this neighborhood). So no sir...there is NOTHING "childish" about it...AT ALL. For some of us the ONLY way to fight fire is with fire and yes, I have absolutely done the same thing as the OP in order to get some freakin' peace and the occasional decent night's sleep. In fact it's rather amazing just how quickly 20 minutes of Aida, cranked to the point of breaking windows...it's amazing how quickly it will "adjust an attitude" without ever saying a word to the person. The people in this area are simply incapable of responding to any degree of logic or reason but when you crank up the opera louder than their rap trash...THAT they actually seem to get.

I not only have 8 guitar amps down in the studio (a studio BTW, that I have gone far out of my way to sound proof so that -I- don't disturb the neighbors and that is WELL protected by both video and my 4 dogs), but I also have 1400 watts of PA power at my disposal. A word of caution to the rap freaks and trash out there...NEVER start a sound war with a musician.

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Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 9:57 am
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Noise and fireworks are a real problem. I'm a huge nonfan of fireworks. They are not fun enough to counteract the danger and rudeness to neighbors, even on July 4. Last July 4 a neighbor was shooting off professional grade fireworks right next to my building until 2 AM and I thought my windows were going to shatter. Ruined my dog's and my kids's and my night.

Former neighbors when I lived in a house had huge loud parties all night almost every weekend, blasting music into my young baby's house. Was a huge source of strain in my marriage. I called cops with noise complaints, protecting my family. My ex wife didn't like that. She failed to have an us vs the world attitude and should ahve been "on my side" (9obivously)


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Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:10 pm
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Her Wanna wrote:
Noise and fireworks are a real problem. I'm a huge nonfan of fireworks. They are not fun enough to counteract the danger and rudeness to neighbors, even on July 4. Last July 4 a neighbor was shooting off professional grade fireworks right next to my building until 2 AM and I thought my windows were going to shatter. Ruined my dog's and my kids's and my night.


I hear ya...for the last few years around here, I've had to tranq my dogs pretty much every freakin' night because at this point, all 4 of them are just terrified the moment the sun goes down. The fireworks started here on memorial day...it's been nearly 3 weeks now since the 4th and it's -still- going on, every night until around 2...and my wife and I have to get up at 5 am. And the really sad thing is that the cop sitting in the cruizer with the windows rolled up and the AC on, while sitting there yacking on his cell phone, just can't seem to find the people shooting them off just 10 houses down from where he's sitting!!! Helen Keller could have found these people...but apparently the Lorain cops just aren't that capable or competant.

And here's the thing...I don't actually have a problem with fireworks in and of themselves. If people want to take them out to the defunct Ford plant where they won't bother anyone...great...let them blow their fingers off all the want! Let em blow their kids fingers off for all I care...but NOT in a residential neighborhood!!!!! But the idiots around here just don't have a lick of common sense, let alone basic human courtesy AT ALL. A couple of weeks back there was a group of 7 children...ALL under the age of 10, blowing off some SERIOUS crap in the middle of the street...no supervision (Adult or otherwise) what so ever. It literally took threatening the police department with a law suit thru children services to get them to come out...and it still took them OVER 45 minutes!

Yea, my Dad and I would blow off some firecrackers and roman candles and such on the 4th when I was a kid, but if I had of been doing crap like what happens around here where I grew up, my folks would have beaten me to a bloody pulp for being so inconsiderate of the people around me. Same goes for the music...if I had of had car stereos cranked like that at all hours of the night (or my guitar amps for that matter), I really suspect that my mother would have likely broken every one of my fingers to keep me from doing it again. Again you just don't pull that kind of crap in a residential neighborhood...but in this area, the best you can really do is just start shooting back.

Unfortunately because a lot of folks here in Ohio do live in happy, sunny little neighborhoods like Bill's Pleasentville up there, they just don't realize what kind of nuisance this crap truly is...they think it's all just fine and dandy because they don't have to deal with it night after night for months on end. And that doesn't even begin to address the shootings that happen virtual every single weekend during the summer down on the corner of my street. Then there's the house fires...2 houses within -1- block of my house...one directly behind my house (I have pictures)...torched just this past month alone. And folks like Bill there really think "talking" to these people has ANY affect at all???? Yea....right.



Sorry if I sound like I have a serious attitude about all of this, but I do...and after 22 years of it, it is a very well earned chip on my shoulder. You really do have to live it to understand it...and sorry Bill but the ONLY thing "talking" gets you is a ride to the hospital or nice little grave marker.


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Sorry if I sound like I have a serious attitude about all of this, but I do...and after 22 years of it, it is a very well earned chip on my shoulder. You really do have to live it to understand it...and sorry Bill but the ONLY thing "talking" gets you is a ride to the hospital or nice little grave marker.


Why would you continue to live in a neighborhood like this for 22 years?

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No offense but people say things like this, apparently with no understanding of how difficult it is to "just move". Personally I rather hate living here in the US to begin with...we have a government where the leaders are as straight as a basketball, only concerned with lining their own pockets and our laws are simply made by the highest bidder. That's compounded by living here in Ohio...the weather sucks, the people suck and again the local government is corrupt beyond belief...not too long ago we had a governor who was ripping off the Ohio unemployment fund to pay for his golf games....and the SOB got away with it!!! So yea...if someone could wave their magic wand for me, I'd be out of here in a heart beat...only it's just -NOT- that easy.

I guess for people with money dripping out of various orifices, it really isn't anything to just pickup and blow...they can easily pay people to do everything for them and chances are they probably live in a nice area where they don't have a problem selling their house, yadda, yadda. But for some of us, it's A LOT more complicated than that. For the first 10 years or so that my wife and I lived out here after we bought the house, she worked 10 minutes down the street and I worked about 15 minutes away...and while the area had problems as most inner city areas do and was still an older, depressed city, it wasn't as bad as it is now. There was some trash here and there and the projects down the road have always been a problem (particularly with the shootings), but most of my immediate neighbors were (somewhat) tolerable. At the very least, I wasn't afraid to walk out in my own back yard the way I am now. Even at that point though my wife and I were already talking about moving but the work was here and we had bought a house here, so here we stayed, trying to deal with it until we could work out something better. Unfortunately in the past 10 years or so, because the city put all of it's proverbial eggs in 3 baskets...the Ford Plant, USS Steel and May Co. Credit services, -ALL- of which have gone out of business, yea...about the only thing left out here now is the local project trash. And because we have a police department that just can't be bothered with responding to calls, they can't get people, let alone businesses to move into the area...no one wants to live or work in a city where shootings occur very literally on a weekly basis. It really is very similar to what people hear in the news about Detroit...what little hope there was in this city, died a long time ago and quite frankly no one except the trash has any interest in living here. What was that line? "Decent people shouldn't live here...they'd be happier someplace else".

Beyond this (as if that's not enough), my wife and I have been -trying- to move for nearly 5 years now. When we first decided it was time to go and started working on the house to get it ready to sell, we found out that my mother had cancer (again...her 6th run with it) so that put a damper on things as I had to help with family issues...I just couldn't be here working on the house and be 20 miles away taking care of my family all at the same time. Dad had just had a heart attack and my idiot brother was and still is up in Michigan, so it really was up to me to take care of. After my mother died a year and a half later in 2009, Dad fell and broke his hip just 2 months later and ended up in a nursing home out here for a while. A while after that, my wife lost her job...again (the first time was because of the May Co. buyout, this second time was because she had worked 3 years on a 1 year government contract). We were able to take that and turn it around a bit as we both got to go back to college, my wife for 2 more programming certs and myself for an Associate of Art degree, but again that was out here. Then as I was nearing my degree (which I -still- have 3 classes to complete), my Dad collapsed back in October, then 3 months later he passed away on February 1st and ever since, I've been busy dealing with Dad's estate (and my idiotic family). Now that that's nearly taken care of, my wife and I have been trying to get a realtor for over a month now...first tried Remax, then ERA and now we're trying Keller Williams. Seriously...try selling a house in an area where NO ONE is interested in buying...I dare ya! Rants aside, here's where it gets really problematic...

This really is something of a catch 22... Yes, we could unload the house to a slum lord for around $25k...even though we payed $40k for it 22 years ago...but where exactly does that put us? For that kind of money, we'd be right back in a similar city/area/neighborhood. Yes, I'm sure we could qualify for another mortgage BUT...damn...I turn 48 next month...can I really wait until I'm nearly 80 years old to pay off another 30 year mortgage? And my wife and I just don't make enough money to try and pull off a 15 year mortgage, even at 4% (we're paying 10% on this house) on a nicer house. Between the two of us, we're only bringing home around 36k a year...even though my wife is a programmer with a degree and 15 odd years experience, because damn...it's Ohio and the job market here, like the people and the weather just sucks. So we're back to trying to get a realtor that can sell the house for a reasonable price, so we can get into a reasonable house in a reasonable neighborhood...but while the house itself is pretty decent, no one that has that kind of money (or would qualify for it) is going to want to move into this neighborhood. Viscous circle to say the least. Ask me again why we don't just move...go ahead.

Seriously...for people that think it's really THAT easy to just move, try wearing my shoes for a few months then come back and tell me about it. It's just NOT that easy at all.


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bluesky636 wrote:
Try talking to them instead. This type of behavior is childish and serves no purpose.


I gotta say, it must be real nice to live in a neighborhood like your sunny little town Pleasantville there, where you can actually talk to your neighbors, but understand this; not everyone is as blessed or fortunate as you apparently are. Here in Lorain, Ohio it's mostly getto trash in my immediate area and they'd just assume crap in your lawn or shoot you, as look at you. Sorry my friend but in this hood you just do -NOT- speak with your neighbors for ANYTHING unless you want a bullet straight thru the skull. Don't even get me started on the f_cking damn fireworks in this neighborhood...it's amazing that these people have to have food stamps in order to eat, but they always seem to have money for H-100's to blow off at 2 in the morning from Memorial day up thru August!!!! Further, this is also an area where you can very literally get a pizza delivered faster than you can get a cop. Lorain cops can take up to an hour and a half or more to respond to a call...-IF- they can be bothered to respond at all (they have actually flat out refused to respond to shots fired in this neighborhood). So no sir...there is NOTHING "childish" about it...AT ALL. For some of us the ONLY way to fight fire is with fire and yes, I have absolutely done the same thing as the OP in order to get some freakin' peace and the occasional decent night's sleep. In fact it's rather amazing just how quickly 20 minutes of Aida, cranked to the point of breaking windows...it's amazing how quickly it will "adjust an attitude" without ever saying a word to the person. The people in this area are simply incapable of responding to any degree of logic or reason but when you crank up the opera louder than their rap trash...THAT they actually seem to get.

I not only have 8 guitar amps down in the studio (a studio BTW, that I have gone far out of my way to sound proof so that -I- don't disturb the neighbors and that is WELL protected by both video and my 4 dogs), but I also have 1400 watts of PA power at my disposal. A word of caution to the rap freaks and trash out there...NEVER start a sound war with a musician.

Jim


So let me get this straight. When someone keeps you up at night by making noise, you retaliate by making a louder noise. If their dog craps in your yard, do you send your dog to crap in their yard? If a neighbor breaks your window, do you break their window? If they vandalize your car, do you vandalize theirs? Should I go on? And none of that will get you a bullet through the skull? I sure hope your luck continues to hold out.

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No offense but people say things like this, apparently with no understanding of how difficult it is to "just move". Personally I rather hate living here in the US to begin with...we have a government where the leaders are as straight as a basketball, only concerned with lining their own pockets and our laws are simply made by the highest bidder. That's compounded by living here in Ohio...the weather sucks, the people suck and again the local government is corrupt beyond belief...not too long ago we had a governor who was ripping off the Ohio unemployment fund to pay for his golf games....and the SOB got away with it!!! So yea...if someone could wave their magic wand for me, I'd be out of here in a heart beat...only it's just -NOT- that easy.

I guess for people with money dripping out of various orifices, it really isn't anything to just pickup and blow...they can easily pay people to do everything for them and chances are they probably live in a nice area where they don't have a problem selling their house, yadda, yadda. But for some of us, it's A LOT more complicated than that. For the first 10 years or so that my wife and I lived out here after we bought the house, she worked 10 minutes down the street and I worked about 15 minutes away...and while the area had problems as most inner city areas do and was still an older, depressed city, it wasn't as bad as it is now. There was some trash here and there and the projects down the road have always been a problem (particularly with the shootings), but most of my immediate neighbors were (somewhat) tolerable. At the very least, I wasn't afraid to walk out in my own back yard the way I am now. Even at that point though my wife and I were already talking about moving but the work was here and we had bought a house here, so here we stayed, trying to deal with it until we could work out something better. Unfortunately in the past 10 years or so, because the city put all of it's proverbial eggs in 3 baskets...the Ford Plant, USS Steel and May Co. Credit services, -ALL- of which have gone out of business, yea...about the only thing left out here now is the local project trash. And because we have a police department that just can't be bothered with responding to calls, they can't get people, let alone businesses to move into the area...no one wants to live or work in a city where shootings occur very literally on a weekly basis. It really is very similar to what people hear in the news about Detroit...what little hope there was in this city, died a long time ago and quite frankly no one except the trash has any interest in living here. What was that line? "Decent people shouldn't live here...they'd be happier someplace else".

Beyond this (as if that's not enough), my wife and I have been -trying- to move for nearly 5 years now. When we first decided it was time to go and started working on the house to get it ready to sell, we found out that my mother had cancer (again...her 6th run with it) so that put a damper on things as I had to help with family issues...I just couldn't be here working on the house and be 20 miles away taking care of my family all at the same time. Dad had just had a heart attack and my idiot brother was and still is up in Michigan, so it really was up to me to take care of. After my mother died a year and a half later in 2009, Dad fell and broke his hip just 2 months later and ended up in a nursing home out here for a while. A while after that, my wife lost her job...again (the first time was because of the May Co. buyout, this second time was because she had worked 3 years on a 1 year government contract). We were able to take that and turn it around a bit as we both got to go back to college, my wife for 2 more programming certs and myself for an Associate of Art degree, but again that was out here. Then as I was nearing my degree (which I -still- have 3 classes to complete), my Dad collapsed back in October, then 3 months later he passed away on February 1st and ever since, I've been busy dealing with Dad's estate (and my idiotic family). Now that that's nearly taken care of, my wife and I have been trying to get a realtor for over a month now...first tried Remax, then ERA and now we're trying Keller Williams. Seriously...try selling a house in an area where NO ONE is interested in buying...I dare ya! Rants aside, here's where it gets really problematic...

This really is something of a catch 22... Yes, we could unload the house to a slum lord for around $25k...even though we payed $40k for it 22 years ago...but where exactly does that put us? For that kind of money, we'd be right back in a similar city/area/neighborhood. Yes, I'm sure we could qualify for another mortgage BUT...damn...I turn 48 next month...can I really wait until I'm nearly 80 years old to pay off another 30 year mortgage? And my wife and I just don't make enough money to try and pull off a 15 year mortgage, even at 4% (we're paying 10% on this house) on a nicer house. Between the two of us, we're only bringing home around 36k a year...even though my wife is a programmer with a degree and 15 odd years experience, because damn...it's Ohio and the job market here, like the people and the weather just sucks. So we're back to trying to get a realtor that can sell the house for a reasonable price, so we can get into a reasonable house in a reasonable neighborhood...but while the house itself is pretty decent, no one that has that kind of money (or would qualify for it) is going to want to move into this neighborhood. Viscous circle to say the least. Ask me again why we don't just move...go ahead.

Seriously...for people that think it's really THAT easy to just move, try wearing my shoes for a few months then come back and tell me about it. It's just NOT that easy at all.


Darn sad that you have to put up with all that and it's a darn shame the job market is not better for you. The attitude of the people and everything else from what you have described is horrible to say the least,...not to mention everything your family has been through. I live in a very quiet neighborhood on the south side of Bluffton,IN and I was very lucky to find it. Overall,Bluffton is a very quiet town,...not too many bad things go on here. Go north 20 miles to Ft. Wayne,In and it could be a very different story with all the shootings you hear about on the news. Very few,...if any,...problems with the neighbors in my part of town and very very low crime.

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