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Post subject: Scales.
Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 2:15 pm
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Hi. I'm wondering if you guys have any advice on learning and practicing scales. I've been looking at them a lot lately and would appreciate any help. Thank you. :)


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Post subject: Re: Scales.
Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 2:50 pm
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-The Heavy Metal Guitar Bible- Richard Daniels.

...You won´t regret spending on this book.
Great insight and actually, this cool author gets you all turned on to
go and drill the hell out of scales, with great comment and very
interesting drawings all throughout.
This book keeps you company, it´s that good, IMHO.

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Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 3:26 pm
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Start with major and natural (aeolian) minor scales. Everything else in western music is based on them.

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Post subject: Re: Scales.
Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 3:36 pm
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+1 on major scales. You will also understand key signatures and intervals much better if you understand major scales and their relative minors.

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Post subject: Re: Scales.
Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 3:39 pm
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The only scales that I have used were the ones to see how heavy my Tele is... :P

I have little or no Music Theory education, and play 90% by instinct...most of the time I have no idea what scale or mode I'm using or playing in...I usually know what key the song is...usually. :shock:

My ignorance is appalling.

Learn as much theory as possible now, because it will help to overcome bad habits and make it easier to communicate what you are trying to get across to other musician.

However, don't let modes and scales and all those things lesson your joy of playing or your creativity. Remember, most of our favorite guitarists (depending what type of music you listen to) didn't know (or care) about the technical stuff--they just messed around until they found something they were proficiently able to do, and the audience happened to like.

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Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 5:07 pm
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I'm with Niki. I started learning the minor pentatonic and then the major pentatonic. It wasn't until I took the time to memorize the natural minor and major scales that I started understanding how the scales all tie together with modes. It's very helpful to know this stuff. However, SA is correct, it's very possible to be a very good guitarist and not know any scales or theory. It depends what kind of guy you are. If you're naturally talented, you can do without the theory. If you need to take it a step at a time, then learning the scales is the way to go.

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Post subject: Re: Scales.
Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 5:18 pm
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Screamin' Armadillo wrote:
The only scales that I have used were the ones to see how heavy my Tele is... :P

I have little or no Music Theory education, and play 90% by instinct...most of the time I have no idea what scale or mode I'm using or playing in...I usually know what key the song is...usually. :shock:

My ignorance is appalling.

Learn as much theory as possible now, because it will help to overcome bad habits and make it easier to communicate what you are trying to get across to other musician.

However, don't let modes and scales and all those things lesson your joy of playing or your creativity. Remember, most of our favorite guitarists (depending what type of music you listen to) didn't know (or care) about the technical stuff--they just messed around until they found something they were proficiently able to do, and the audience happened to like.


+1,000! SA.
I´m extra rational to begin with. Trying to play out of theoretical structure makes me stiff as a board.
This super confident studio player, I was at the mixing desk, he whips out this awesome stuff. I hit the talkback switch,
"Wow, what´s that you played over F and Bb?"
-I have no idea-.

20 years later, I don´t fuss as much. I am getting better at not wanting to understand everything, all the time. It´s made my life miserable dammit! :lol:

Sure, there are guys like Pat Martino or Charlie Parker, and one can analize modal content forever, but I suspect it´s all AFTER the fact, not the other way around.

Whatever guitar stuff I have put down that I´m happy with, occurred when I didn´t have a clue, and just allowed myself to feel something. So I guess I´m finally braving it.

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Post subject: Re: Scales.
Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 5:42 pm
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nikininja wrote:
Start with major and natural (aeolian) minor scales. Everything else in western music is based on them.


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