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Post subject: I could use some amp advice. Sorry for the newb questions.
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 5:44 pm
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So now that I'm an "adult" I can afford to buy the gear I'd like. After years of selling my stuff to pay for college, wedding rings, etc, I can invest in something I'm not going to get rid of.

The problem is, I've only ever bought garbage.

So my first adult purchase was the SRV strat I've always dreamed of. I'm into his tone but am not going to spend my life and money recreating his gear.

The thing I'm having a hard time with is being in an apartment. I know that I don't necessarily want a cab/head set up because I don't need that much sound. I also want something I can record with on my mac. I would be nice to have something to plug headphones into (blasphemy I know).

Overall, a fat, vintage tube sound turns me on. But I'm trying to live in the reality of where I'm at and not being able to make a huge amount of noise.

Thanks for being patient and probably answering this kind of question for the millionth time.

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Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 6:25 pm
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I think the reality is that in an apartment setting, you might be pushing your luck even cranking a 1W tube amp. I would suggest looking into the offerings of Blackstar. The HT-1 and HT-5 seem to be getting great response from people. Relatively inexpensive master volume tube amps with headphone capability and line out for recording interfaces. Might be just what works best for you. :wink:


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Post subject: Re: I could use some amp advice. Sorry for the newb question
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 6:28 pm
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First off,welcome to the forum. There are lots of good people here with knowledge on all things Fender.
Being a condo dweller I know about the earphones and the desire to keep the peace. The solution I'm using is the Mustang3. It has more than enough amp models and effects that are all tweekable as well as headphone and usb outs and an effects loop as well.
Imho the best advise is: take your guitar to as many stores as possible and play through as many amps possible.

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Post subject: Re: I could use some amp advice. Sorry for the newb question
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 7:03 pm
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Thanks for the quick advice!

What headphones have you run? Do they really kill the tone that much?

With some of the smaller, more technical amps do you both worry about reliability?

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Post subject: Re: I could use some amp advice. Sorry for the newb question
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 7:41 pm
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how about a multi-effects unit?

most of them have a headphone output, and can give you amp modeling and various effects.

might be a good option


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Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 7:43 pm
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chrisconsin wrote:
So now that I'm an "adult" I can afford to buy the gear I'd like. After years of selling my stuff to pay for college, wedding rings, etc, I can invest in something I'm not going to get rid of.

The problem is, I've only ever bought garbage.

So my first adult purchase was the SRV strat I've always dreamed of. I'm into his tone but am not going to spend my life and money recreating his gear.

The thing I'm having a hard time with is being in an apartment. I know that I don't necessarily want a cab/head set up because I don't need that much sound. I also want something I can record with on my mac. I would be nice to have something to plug headphones into (blasphemy I know).

Overall, a fat, vintage tube sound turns me on. But I'm trying to live in the reality of where I'm at and not being able to make a huge amount of noise.

Thanks for being patient and probably answering this kind of question for the millionth time.



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If the amp that you like does NOT have a headphone jack, take a look at the Webber Headphone Tap. (http://taweber.powweb.com/weber/hpa50.htm). It basically adds headphone capability to an amp that lacks it...


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Post subject: Re: I could use some amp advice. Sorry for the newb question
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 7:51 pm
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I own a Mustang l, along with some other amps. It sounds great in any headphones, even earbuds work well. It records well and easily with USB. A Dual headphone jack would give you a stereo out recording option. FMIC is screwing up a lot of things lately, but the Mustang one has been a winner for home playing a recording from the moment it came on the market. The bang for the buck is nothing short of amazing. V2 has more options. I have V1 and intend to stay with it. I have tubes amps for other situations. With the Mustang l you will have a ball, make music and nobody will hear an unneeded sound.

The Fender Floor is another option and more user friendly as is.

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Post subject: Re: I could use some amp advice. Sorry for the newb question
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 8:11 pm
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This is all really fantastic advice. Thank you all so much.

I'll be honest, I'm not any good with technical items related to amps (electrical engineering would not be a career path for me). For the box that creates a headphone input - does that ruin the sound at all? Will it not work with some amps?

What are thoughts on Marshall combos?

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Post subject: Re: I could use some amp advice. Sorry for the newb question
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 9:56 pm
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Welcome

I recently got a mustang II V2. Love it. The amp models are very natural sounding to me both clean and gain, especially The 65 Twin which to me is worth the price of the amp. And I can go to headphones late at night when everyones asleep. I'm not gaga over the stomps on it. Overdrive stomps are ok but don't care for the fuzz and dist on it. However, the time based/modulations are very impressive I really like the tape delay. Pedals do well with it which wasn't the case for the line 6 I had so I'm just getting a Fuzz and OD for the front end and I'll be happy as a clam. In terms of headphones, I'm a huge fan of the senheiser HD280s. Seem to translate what you hear out of monitor speakers over to the cans better than anything else I've tried

Haven't hooked the Mustang up to Protools yet but might try it tomorrow

Best of luck to you.

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Post subject: Re: I could use some amp advice. Sorry for the newb question
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 10:11 pm
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I have a Marshall MG30DFX that I like a lot. Solid state, headphone jack.


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Post subject: Re: I could use some amp advice. Sorry for the newb question
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 11:32 pm
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I'm probably gonna get reamed for this one but here goes.

You'd be amazed what you can do with something a cheap as an Alesis multimix (comes with cubase software) or an M Box ( protools software). The last recording I did was with. Multimix and Cubase, and my guitar plugged into just a Proco pedal and delay pedal right into the mixer. There are plugin effects that you add after doing the track and enough eq editing you can do that will be sufficient. Will it be like a pro recording? Not really. But good enough once you get used to it all. Mic'ing a cabinet isn't as necessary as it used to be in the past.

I did it all with a good set of headphones. If you're in an apartment, it's a good way to go. Just make sure you get a good set of headphones to mix the sound with. I used some Sennheiser HD 280 Pro headphones and the recording did just fine. Regular headphone won't cut it. They're not designed for recording purposes.

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Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 4:08 am
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well i kind of had the same problem. got a twin reverb and an ac 30. and lived in an apartment. so i pulled the speaker plug on the twin and plugged in a cable there and plugged ina cable to the ac 30 ead phone put put. then i made up a box with 4 stereo plugs and 4 mono plugs. ran one output to my computer one input each from the amps one to my stereo. and outputs to my 8 track recorder. so i put on my headphnes and i can hear everything thats connected. i can playas loud as i want and nobody can ear me. last year i added a set of simmons drums.. i can record to the 8 track recorder or to the computer.

so if you want that srv sound. id start with a good fender amp .. an older one. like my twin reverb or a bassman. i believe he had both in his lot of amps.


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Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 4:32 am
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I live in a condo and we do have neighbors who are thank god, really cool about the fact that I do play guitar. One of them plays himself. I have several amps which are all solid state . They are a Fender Stage 185 Red Knob Combo, a Fender Frontman 25R which has a Eminence Rajun Cajun in it, and I recently acquired a Mint condition, 1989 USA made, Peavey Bandit 112 Solo Series 80 watt combo , all of which depending of which one I'm using, I run through a Digitech RP-50 effects processor . That gives me a tube tone and I can control the volume as well without shaking the walls in my home and play at a reasonable volume.


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Post subject: Re: I could use some amp advice. Sorry for the newb question
Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 5:30 am
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Jah Soldier wrote:
I'm probably gonna get reamed for this one but here goes.

You'd be amazed what you can do with something a cheap as an Alesis multimix (comes with cubase software) or an M Box ( protools software). The last recording I did was with. Multimix and Cubase, and my guitar plugged into just a Proco pedal and delay pedal right into the mixer. There are plugin effects that you add after doing the track and enough eq editing you can do that will be sufficient. Will it be like a pro recording? Not really. But good enough once you get used to it all. Mic'ing a cabinet isn't as necessary as it used to be in the past.

I did it all with a good set of headphones. If you're in an apartment, it's a good way to go. Just make sure you get a good set of headphones to mix the sound with. I used some Sennheiser HD 280 Pro headphones and the recording did just fine. Regular headphone won't cut it. They're not designed for recording purposes.


+1

Or,in my own words:

If you've got a Mac , and no immediate plans of being in a band, just playing at home-
then buy Logic (recording software with plenty amp/stompbox simulations)
+ an audio interface + studio monitors. There you go :D

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Post subject: Re: I could use some amp advice. Sorry for the newb question
Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 6:18 am
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another vote for Fender Mustang here, check them out

http://www.fender.com/series/mustang/

I have a Mustang III, I use it at home and for gigs, big and small. I think for your situation probably a Mustang II or even a Mustang I would get the job done.

Check out my YouTube channel (in signature below) for some Mustang demos, recorded on my PC with backing tracks.

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