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Post subject: Day Of Mourning
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 6:57 pm
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April 28 is the International Day Of Mourning.

Here in Alberta, 145 workers died in 2012 due to workplace injuries and/or work related illness. Over 900 Canada wide. I realise those numbers must pale in comparison to USA but the workers are no less dead.

During the small ceremony we had on site today I stood up and spoke of my friend who died in a skidder rollover so many years ago and another friend who did not die but who's life is forever altered due to something so minor as a little cut on his hand which he did not report and which over the weekend turned into flesh eating disease and which by the time he had it looked at had deleted the use of his right hand from his list of physical abilities we take for granted. He can no longer hold a stinger. He can no longer ride his motorcycle. He can no longer play his guitar.

Today, of all days, when we are all just a little more safety conscious than other days, we escorted a man to the main gate. He was talking on his cel phone while driving on site. An act which is not only dangerous and against site rules but is also illegal in this province.

As a Safety Specialist I hang my head today. How long will it take for some people to learn?

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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 7:13 pm
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excellent post!

our company has strict guidelines at all stores. yet some people try to skirt the rules, and sometimes injuries occur. i personally saw a pallette fall off a shelf when merchandise next to it somehow got pushed into it. we had the aisles blocked off as per regulations, and nobody got hurt.

let's all be a little more careful


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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 10:07 pm
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BMW-KTM wrote:
April 28 is the International Day Of Mourning.

Here in Alberta, 145 workers died in 2012 due to workplace injuries and/or work related illness. Over 900 Canada wide. I realise those numbers must pale in comparison to USA but the workers are no less dead.

During the small ceremony we had on site today I stood up and spoke of my friend who died in a skidder rollover so many years ago and another friend who did not die but who's life is forever altered due to something so minor as a little cut on his hand which he did not report and which over the weekend turned into flesh eating disease and which by the time he had it looked at had deleted the use of his right hand from his list of physical abilities we take for granted. He can no longer hold a stinger. He can no longer ride his motorcycle. He can no longer play his guitar.

Today, of all days, when we are all just a little more safety conscious than other days, we escorted a man to the main gate. He was talking on his cel phone while driving on site. An act which is not only dangerous and against site rules but is also illegal in this province.

As a Safety Specialist I hang my head today. How long will it take for some people to learn?


Congratulations on making your work site safer by busting an industrial workplace safety violation. Ever vigilant. :roll:


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Post subject: Re: Day Of Mourning
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 10:29 pm
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GTG wrote:
BMW-KTM wrote:
April 28 is the International Day Of Mourning.

Here in Alberta, 145 workers died in 2012 due to workplace injuries and/or work related illness. Over 900 Canada wide. I realise those numbers must pale in comparison to USA but the workers are no less dead.

During the small ceremony we had on site today I stood up and spoke of my friend who died in a skidder rollover so many years ago and another friend who did not die but who's life is forever altered due to something so minor as a little cut on his hand which he did not report and which over the weekend turned into flesh eating disease and which by the time he had it looked at had deleted the use of his right hand from his list of physical abilities we take for granted. He can no longer hold a stinger. He can no longer ride his motorcycle. He can no longer play his guitar.

Today, of all days, when we are all just a little more safety conscious than other days, we escorted a man to the main gate. He was talking on his cel phone while driving on site. An act which is not only dangerous and against site rules but is also illegal in this province.

As a Safety Specialist I hang my head today. How long will it take for some people to learn?


Congratulations on making your work site safer by busting an industrial workplace safety violation. Ever vigilant. :roll:


Also, please explain how an industrial scratch led to a flesh eating disease in two days. Rust?

And please explain the correlation between the lack of worker safety on site to the chicken snitedness of safety and company. TIA

30+ years United Association Pipe Trades - US and Canada

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Post subject: Re: Day Of Mourning
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 10:55 pm
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Didn't actually know it was international mourning day yesterday.. Or today in your part of the world.

Talking safety though,mthe 377 dead in the clothing factories in Bangladesh is a sobering reminder of 'safety comes first'.

I would like to see some of the western companies who sell the garments investigate the conditions their workers are in. Between the manufacturer and the end seller.. Someone is pocketing a lot of money considering that these people get paid in a month, perhaps what the cost of a bought lunch is to us. I think it's high time some companies invest in the plant as well as the people and communities following this awful tragedy.

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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:23 am
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GTG, I have 30+ years experience as well. UA170 when I was younger and BM146 when I moved to Alberta. I am still a member in good standing with BM146 although its been about 3 or 4 years or so since the last time I pulled a slip on the tools.

We don't know exactly how my friend got the flesh eating disease. The speculation at the time was there may have been something on the wire. He was changing a spool of FCAW wire and a couple of wraps sprung when he clipped it. Stopped it with his hand and the sharp edge on the clipped end gave him the tiniest of a scratch.

I assure you I am not some pencil pushing Safety Professional who doesn't know his head from a hole in the ground. I came up through the trades. If you feel using a cel phone is perfectly safe while operating a motor vehicle then I have no response for you because if you don't already know then you wouldn't understand any more if I explained it to you.

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Post subject: Re: Day Of Mourning
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:51 am
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Penalties are high in my country for using a mobile phone whilst driving.. Which includes operating an MP3 player or such devices. It's very dangerous.. Right up there with drink driving. My partner is a cop & she deals with some very hairy stuff as you'd expect, they have a zero tolerance policy.

Workplace H&S regulations here are very strict too. At my old job there was a lot of paperwork involved in getting a workplace up to scratch. This meant my office had to have all policies on display (which takes up all wall space) potential hazards, fire evac plans, even individual chemicals listed in cupboards right down to dishwasher liquid. You can't even get a paper cut without getting it signed off and processed & documented 4fold- just to put a plaster on a cut. Not something I enjoy but has to be done.

Some countries in Europe I have been to sadly, didn't seem to have many or any at all.

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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:35 am
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I was on the Occupational Health and Safety Commitee of my workplace from its inception to my retirement.Many times I incurred the wrath of my own supervisor who had a rather lacadaisical view of workplace safety.I once got him into considerable trouble when he asked me to assist a coworker at a machine that I had been after him to get fixed for quite some time-it was an industrial table saw that was missing the guide/ripfence-I refused of course and told him yet again that it was a great hazard. He told me that I was being foolish and said that he would help the coworker who had the same regard of safety as the supervisor.They put a 4' X 4' sheet of 1/4" ABS on the table and just as it started to go through the blade,it kicked back,tearing a sizeable chunk of flesh off the knuckes and right hand of the coworker.The supervisor panicked but we finally got the injured guy to hospital to get patched and sutured up and consequently he was off work for almost 5 months.It's funny that the part that he said for months that wasn't in stock at the local industrial equipment supplier was put on the saw the next day.

When I filled out my Incident Report I had to note that I had made many repeated requests over a period of months with no cooperaton from the supervisor,he actedlike everything was my fault when management raked him over the coals and actually started his own vendetta to get even with me but gave up when I suceeded getting a Stop Work Order on the whole department from another issue that he had ignored for months.

The National Day of Mourning is very important in Newfoundland as every year we lose so many people who make their living on the sea.On Feb.14 1981,we had the largest workplace marine disaster in North America with the sinking of the "unsinkable" drill rig "Ocean Ranger".84 men went to their deaths and there were no survivors.A supply vessel that was standing by at the time almost got a rope to an escape pod/lifeboat but a giant wave swept the pod away just as one of the crewmen was grabbing hold of the rescue rope.Needless to say that the men aboard the supply vessel were devastated by this and they were hit especially hard as they all knew all the crew aboard the lifeboat that they had come just seconds from saving.This disaster quite literally affected every family in the province as just about every person in this tight knit province either knew someone on the "Ranger"-I had 2 childhood friends on her-or knew a friend or relative of one of the crew.

Too many people just don't take on-the-job safety seriously but in just a split second your life could change for the worst forever or even come to an end because they ignore a hazard because"that could never happen-especially to me" but yes it can and often does.Please say a prayer for those who have either been seriously injured or have died just trying to earn an honest living.

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Post subject: Re: Day Of Mourning
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:51 am
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Workplace safety is what we're all about. Some companies(harump) use the safety man as a tool to save them money on medical claims and to weed out undesirables by way of safety violations. True safety issues are ignored because they cost too much.

A safety man should have plenty to do in the plant, rather than sniping some poor guy putting around the parking lot on the phone. Looks good on the paperwork though. Congratulations.


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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:58 am
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The recent Bangladesh building collapse may force some of these profit before H&S to think about looking into their practices of outsourcing, wonder how many high street exec's visit their sweatshops or would send their families to work in them


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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:07 pm
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A safety man should have plenty to do in the plant, rather than sniping some poor guy putting around the parking lot on the phone. Looks good on the paperwork though. Congratulations.

You crack me up. My partner and I were driving out to the mine area to investigate a worker concern relating to the conveyor from the ore dump to the crusher. On our way we observed a guy threading his way through a congested area next to the water return pipeline. The area was full of vehicles and pedestrians and the guy was doing 400 words a minute on his phone. Then he proceeded to cross the heavy haul road while still on the phone. We intercepted him after crossing. This is rough terrain, not a parking lot. Driving in a small vehicle with no suspension but the tires. Had his small front loader been run over by a haul truck carrying a 400 ton load the little loader, about the size of a compact car, would have felt like a bump in the road.

You need to think before you beak off about things you know nothing about.

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I was beaking off about the unemployed guy you were beaking off about escorting to the gate.


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Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 6:27 am
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My youngest daughter,as assistant manager or her department, is often left in charge of the Emergency Response, Occupational Health and Saftey and Security of a large iron mine.While she has been in charge she has initiated saftey measures that had been neglected by her supervisor for years because he didn't want to ruffle any feathers or make bad friends.While getting these measures up and running she encountered a lot of opposition from both workers and management.

She showed them that she was serious about safety and not going to back down when she got the Provincial Director of Mine Safety to fly in and put the mine on Shut-Down until her concerns were dealt with. She put a few noses out of joint but when the owner of the large Safety-Security company she works for came to visit,he heaped praises on her for being so diligent and for sticking to her guns and told her she was one of the very few employees who has such a high work ethic that anything under 100% isn't good enough and also told her that she had demonstrated that she puts in over 100% by going above and beyond the boundries of her job description.Needless to say that her supervisor wasn't impressed when he returned from "stress leave" when her taking the bull by the horns showed him up to be hardly anything more than a vestigial figure head.

All the while the girls were growing up we tried to instill a strong work ethic in them and also for them to have the courage to face the devil with their convictions when they know that they are in the right.Our other daughter is the Director of Town Planning for the same mining town and she too has faced opposition and adversity but has stuck to her guns when she knew that she was doing the right thing and has always been vindicated.She too has shut down large but unsafe work sites.They both have paid a price for their persistance and insistance in playing it right by the book because they are collectively refered to by the townsfolk-who were content with the way things were-as The $@!&* Sisters.They wear this badge with honor because they know that they are making a difference for the better even though a lot of people are too dim to realize the importance of safety at all times.

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