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Post subject: Re: Boston Marathon Tragedy
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 4:41 pm
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Suspect is surrounded in a boat in Watertown backyard...a couple of kids have been rushed out of area via ambulance...they see suspect and he's wired with explosives...this should be the end...some how...some way!



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Post subject: Re: Boston Marathon Tragedy
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 5:08 pm
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The Boston bombs were more of the usual radical Islamic extremists carrying on their Jihad against the USA and I'm pretty sure they are not "right wing nutzos" or even moderate Republicans.


These events are horrible and despicable, but with all due respect, "the radical Islamic extremists carrying out their usual jihad" has not yet been proven.
I am devastated by the carnage and injury and fear caused by these terrorists; what is especially chilling are the reports from their peers who are completely at a loss to reconcile their memories of the two brothers with their violent actions.
I have friends in Boston and my thoughts are with them - and all Bostonians - in these terrible times.


My thoughts are with Boston also. Very grim injuries and of course the dead MIT Officer and wounded Boston Officer piled on top of the bombing deaths. It just isn't right or civilized.

They ARE Muslim extremists. The two suspects are both Muslim. Their bombs were of the pressure-cooker design known to be used by Islamic extremist terrorists for over a decade. Bombing innocents is extremely cruel and since they are both Muslim that pretty much lands them in the Muslim extremist category. Quoting from TIME DOT COM:

"In 2004, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) was concerned enough about pressure-cooker bombs to issue an alert to federal and state security officials: “A technique commonly taught in Afghan terrorist training camps is the use/conversion of pressure cookers into [improvised explosive devices],” the bulletin warned.

That bulletin cited several plots from 2002 to 2004 to use pressure-cooker bombs in France, India and Nepal. But more recently there have been at least three other instances of would-be terrorists in the West, all of them Islamic radicals, in possession of pressure cookers for reasons that seemed not to involve having friends over for dinner. One was an Army private linked to the 2009 Fort Hood shooter Nidal Hasan, who had reportedly been taking bombmaking tips from al-Qaeda’s short-lived (literally) online magazine Inspire and had various weapons and explosives along with his cooking pot. (The magazine reportedly recommended pressure cookers as explosive devices.) A 2010 suicide bomber in Stockholm had rigged a pressure-cooker bomb that failed to detonate. And as a newer DHS warning about the kitchen devices noted, the failed 2010 SUV bomb in New York’s Times Square was a pressure-cooker device containing 120 firecrackers. The same DHS memo refers to a March 2010 bombing with a pressure cooker at a Western Christian aid agency in Pakistan that killed six people."

Read more: http://swampland.time.com/2013/04/16/a-short-history-of-pressure-cooker-bombs/#ixzz2QxF12mt4

The agency attacked in Pakistan was World Vision who was in Pakistan doing earthquake relief.

I concede it is possible that the Muslim Boston bomb brothers adopted Muslim terrorist bomb designs and the one who is deceased now was wearing a Muslim terrorist style suicide bomber vest at the time of his death for some reasons besides furthering Islam. However since they are Muslim and using at least two different types of classic Muslim extremist devices that are seldom used for anything else but Jihad, doesn't seem likely it could be anything else but Jihad.


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Post subject: Re: Boston Marathon Tragedy
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 6:08 pm
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Yup...looks like they finally pinched the little bastaaaard!

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Post subject: Re: Boston Marathon Tragedy
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 6:48 pm
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It's a real shame that the freedom we enjoy, and willingly share with foreigners is so easily abused..
"Give us your poor, your tired, your huddled masses longing to be free"..
and all we get in return is war damaged refugees that don't want to assimilate,
they just want to hate and kill, now they are welcomed in our land, which they believe is populated with clueless infidels..
Thanks Chechnya..

Time for some rest.....finally!!!

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Post subject: Re: Boston Marathon Tragedy
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:36 pm
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Miami Mike wrote:
Thanks Chechnya..

Time for some rest.....finally!!!


Peter Krause, a political science professor and terrorism expert at Boston College, said that the few details about the mens' backgrounds could point to several possible motivations.

"They are from Chechnya, but you could be American, Japanese, whatever, and it doesn't mean what you do is based on your nationality. They could be committing this for personal reasons or political reasons," he said. "It could be that these individuals are not affiliated with any organization or trained by them. They could be upset about their homeland, they could have thought of this as part of a larger assault against the west or Christianity by Islam -- that is heard among Chechen terrorists sometimes. You've had Al Qaeda fighters train in Chechnya, and Al Qaeda has been looking for more European-looking individuals to blend into society."


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Post subject: Re: Boston Marathon Tragedy
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:19 pm
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Terrorist's ??? , terrorism preceded by Potitcal, Islamic, jihad, or any other western three or four letter abbreviation tends to now legitimize all as some freedom fighting group, this and countless other atrocities perpetrated against innocents seen in their eyes as legitimate targets were commited by Cowardly Murdering Bast..dterrorists, thats CMB( insert warped cause) terrorist
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Post subject: Re: Boston Marathon Tragedy
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 4:06 am
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Dzhokhar Tsarnaev found in custody

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Post subject: Re: Boston Marathon Tragedy
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 4:41 am
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Actually...he was found wounded, hiding in a covered boat at the of the driveway of a home, and didn't exactly welcome the police with open arms. But thanks for the link. :wink:

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Post subject: Re: Boston Marathon Tragedy
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 6:44 am
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Police sources said there are 3 other suspects (two men and a woman) who also were arrested by the FBI.

According to a New Bedford official the three detained suspects supposedly backed the Chechen bombers.

US authorities accuse singer Timur Mutsurayev for being involved in the attack.

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Post subject: Re: Boston Marathon Tragedy
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 7:58 am
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Miami Mike wrote:
It's a real shame that the freedom we enjoy, and willingly share with foreigners is so easily abused..
"Give us your poor, your tired, your huddled masses longing to be free"..
and all we get in return is war damaged refugees that don't want to assimilate

Yes cause out of the thousands of people that come to America each year looking for a better life, all turn out to be crazed psycopathic bombers....

*Sarcasm intended*

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Post subject: Re: Boston Marathon Tragedy
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:29 am
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chromeface wrote:
Police sources said there are 3 other suspects (two men and a woman) who also were arrested by the FBI.

According to a New Bedford official the three detained suspects supposedly backed the Chechen bombers.

US authorities accuse singer Timur Mutsurayev for being involved in the attack.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22229442

http://www.wcvb.com/news/local/metro/3- ... index.html


I've also heard this and several other related incidents that are being investigated. We'll see how it all shakes out in time...

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Post subject: Re: Boston Marathon Tragedy
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 6:36 pm
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When a city such as Boston is targeted,it isn't just Boston that these murderous zealots are sending a message to but to the whole free world,as they wouldn't hesitate to cause chaos,death and destruction in any democratic country if they could.For some warped reasoning and their twisted interpretation of some religious books a lot of these rogues hate democracy and all that it represents.
If it is found that these madmen are part of a sleeper cell of Al Qaida or some other terrorist organization,there should be a much greater international effort to eradicate that organization for once and for all.
I was recently on a Facebook site to send my condolences to the people of Boston and was sickened to the core to see that some fools posted crude and cruel remarks.How people can be so insensitive to their fellow countrymen at such a tragic time just defies explanation,they no doubt have deep rooted mental problems.
This attack was an affront to the whole free world and no doubt the whole free mourns for and with Bostonians.God Bless America.

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Post subject: Re: Boston Marathon Tragedy
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:37 pm
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When a city such as Boston is targeted,it isn't just Boston that these murderous zealots are sending a message to but to the whole free world,as they wouldn't hesitate to cause chaos,death and destruction in any democratic country if they could.For some warped reasoning and their twisted interpretation of some religious books a lot of these rogues hate democracy and all that it represents.
If it is found that these madmen are part of a sleeper cell of Al Qaida or some other terrorist organization,there should be a much greater international effort to eradicate that organization for once and for all.
I was recently on a Facebook site to send my condolences to the people of Boston and was sickened to the core to see that some fools posted crude and cruel remarks.How people can be so insensitive to their fellow countrymen at such a tragic time just defies explanation,they no doubt have deep rooted mental problems.
This attack was an affront to the whole free world and no doubt the whole free mourns for and with Bostonians.God Bless America.

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Post subject: Re: Boston Marathon Tragedy
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:21 pm
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guitslinger wrote:
When a city such as Boston is targeted,it isn't just Boston that these murderous zealots are sending a message to but to the whole free world,as they wouldn't hesitate to cause chaos,death and destruction in any democratic country if they could.For some warped reasoning and their twisted interpretation of some religious books a lot of these rogues hate democracy and all that it represents.


I agree with part of this. This particular instance has been fuelled with extremism and brainwashing of a young adult- which to me is a tragedy, not least what happened in Boston. But as for..

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murderous zealots are sending a message to but to the whole free world,as they wouldn't hesitate to cause chaos,death and destruction in any democratic country if they could.


Not true. There are lots of democratic countries that are not targeted by Muslim extremists, my country being one of them. To an extremist, this is a 'holy war' and is targeted against those countries who have played major parts in conflicts in the Middle East and Afghanistan. I'm sure there are other countries and theatres too, but in a nutshell- that's what it's all about.

It's not about targeting democracy, they aren't interested in that. It's about the 'Foreign policies' and wars that have been waged in their countries and anger & grief from lost loved ones & countrymen, along with desperation which is a breeding ground for resolution and extremist beliefs.

The scary unfortunate thing, is that this type of thing won't stop. What these people want is a complete military withdrawal from all Middle East countries and sanctions lifted.

To us, it's about freedoms and fighting for freedoms that others might not have. To them, it a holy 'Jihad' war that they are willing to die for. That is a very dangerous thing.. :|

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Post subject: Re: Boston Marathon Tragedy
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:29 am
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The familyhood of the two Chechen extremists said shocked.

According to CBS their father spoke from Dagestan on Friday and insisted his sons were set up.

"We never even had weapons in the family. We escaped oppression and now look what's happened," Anzor Tsarnaev told reporters.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162- ... -bombings/


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