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Post subject: Re: Boston Marathon Tragedy
Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:55 am
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Whoever is responsible is a piece of garbage not worthy of being hogtied and dropped from a helicopter into the Atlantic Ocean.


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Post subject: Re: Boston Marathon Tragedy
Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:59 am
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There are no words to describe the cowards who do things like this.

Ball bearing aren't something one can buy at a local hardware store, so they'd have to come from a specialty source, if they weren't stolen, or acquired out of the country, or if they were even used.

The reports of shrapnel loaded bombs may be in error, as are a lot of the stories coming out, so far.

I don't understand how humans can be so barbaric against their own kind.

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Post subject: Re: Boston Marathon Tragedy
Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:13 am
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There is only 1 way to fight Terrorism... and it's NOT trying to win Hearts and Minds !

The ONLY way to defeat Terrorism is to make it clear to all that: "If you f*ck with us... we're gonna F*CK with you !!"

That using covert methods of destruction IS NOT a way to solve issues you may have.

There was no way that the Founding Fathers could have envisioned the threat posed by People, Groups or Governments who are bent on covert Terrorism of our population and infrastructure.

Our Nat'l. Leadership needs to have the B*lls to adapt to these times by changing the Constitution and Laws that if you release destruction on our People or Infrastructure, you will automatically forfeit your 'rights' under our system of Justice.

No Trial, no all-expense paid vacation to the Grey Rock Motel to the cheers of your adoring fans... just summary execution.

Rules of Evidence in these instances need to be modified and such evidence placed before a panel of officials (maybe the Supremes... or maybe we need to create a special panel altogether), and if the evidence is compelling to them, we act.

No Mamby-Pamby speeches from a White House Podium, we flood the airwaves, comandeer Al-Jezira, drop leaflets, post notices in Post Offices, Embassies, Armed Forces Bases, etc. that ANY form of Terrorism will result in direct and swift action. Further, if you are found to be linked to ANY Group, Religion or Government, that we will also take action against these as well.

I realize that there is currently no evidence that this instance is linked to anyone, say Islam or Jihadiis, but if so, we restrict the travel, Visa priviledges, etc. to ALL Muslims from that area. If an individual is found to be responsible, we act against them as well as any Family members who knew... or should have known !

One of the ways this type of Terrorism thrives is that their local populations tolerate, if not outright support, their efforts. By inflicting pain and inconvenience on these people directly, they will soon want these Terrorists to cease their activities.

It is not an abhoration of our National Values to do so at all. Our Country and Government, ANY Country or Government, has the Primary Responsibility to keep it's Citizenry safe and provide for the continuation of same.

While the Marathon incident was a tragedy, consider the scale of this action if these devices were used against a Nuclear Power Plant, the Electrical Grid, Safe Water Supplies, etc.

If anything like that happened, the number of people being mourned would be exponentially higher !

America needs to be proactive, not reactive in this area. It will be difficult, it won't taste good. But, this is not something we sought.

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Heartfelt compassion out to those affected in the Boston incident !

Cheers!

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Post subject: Re: Boston Marathon Tragedy
Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:35 am
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Lightnin MN wrote:
[RANT Mode ON]

There is only 1 way to fight Terrorism... and it's NOT trying to win Hearts and Minds !

The ONLY way to defeat Terrorism is to make it clear to all that: "If you f*ck with us... we're gonna F*CK with you !!"

That using covert methods of destruction IS NOT a way to solve issues you may have.

There was no way that the Founding Fathers could have envisioned the threat posed by People, Groups or Governments who are bent on covert Terrorism of our population and infrastructure.

Our Nat'l. Leadership needs to have the B*lls to adapt to these times by changing the Constitution and Laws that if you release destruction on our People or Infrastructure, you will automatically forfeit your 'rights' under our system of Justice.

No Trial, no all-expense paid vacation to the Grey Rock Motel to the cheers of your adoring fans... just summary execution.

Rules of Evidence in these instances need to be modified and such evidence placed before a panel of officials (maybe the Supremes... or maybe we need to create a special panel altogether), and if the evidence is compelling to them, we act.

No Mamby-Pamby speeches from a White House Podium, we flood the airwaves, comandeer Al-Jezira, drop leaflets, post notices in Post Offices, Embassies, Armed Forces Bases, etc. that ANY form of Terrorism will result in direct and swift action. Further, if you are found to be linked to ANY Group, Religion or Government, that we will also take action against these as well.

I realize that there is currently no evidence that this instance is linked to anyone, say Islam or Jihadiis, but if so, we restrict the travel, Visa priviledges, etc. to ALL Muslims from that area. If an individual is found to be responsible, we act against them as well as any Family members who knew... or should have known !

One of the ways this type of Terrorism thrives is that their local populations tolerate, if not outright support, their efforts. By inflicting pain and inconvenience on these people directly, they will soon want these Terrorists to cease their activities.

It is not an abhoration of our National Values to do so at all. Our Country and Government, ANY Country or Government, has the Primary Responsibility to keep it's Citizenry safe and provide for the continuation of same.

While the Marathon incident was a tragedy, consider the scale of this action if these devices were used against a Nuclear Power Plant, the Electrical Grid, Safe Water Supplies, etc.

If anything like that happened, the number of people being mourned would be exponentially higher !

America needs to be proactive, not reactive in this area. It will be difficult, it won't taste good. But, this is not something we sought.

[RANT Mode OFF]

Heartfelt compassion out to those affected in the Boston incident !

Cheers!


Yes. Keep rant mode on. Enough is enough. We need more ranting. When is enough going to be enough!!?!?!? After our civilization is no more?


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Post subject: Re: Boston Marathon Tragedy
Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:46 am
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I just want this news story to stop following me, and here it is again.


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Post subject: Re: Boston Marathon Tragedy
Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:55 pm
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Her Wanna wrote:
Whoever is responsible is a piece of garbage not worthy of being hogtied and dropped from a helicopter into the Atlantic Ocean.


Actually they will get a fair trial most likely. There is no death penalty in Massachusetts either.


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Post subject: Re: Boston Marathon Tragedy
Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:58 pm
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brotherdave wrote:
Her Wanna wrote:
Whoever is responsible is a piece of garbage not worthy of being hogtied and dropped from a helicopter into the Atlantic Ocean.


Actually they will get a fair trial most likely. There is no death penalty in Massachusetts either.


It well could be escalated to a Federal Crime(s).

They could end up down in Gitmo eating the C*ckMeat Sandwich ! :shock: :shock: :shock:

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Post subject: Re: Boston Marathon Tragedy
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:12 am
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Last nights tributes around MLB were wonderful--thanks to New York, Chicago and San Diego for thinking of us.

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Post subject: Re: Boston Marathon Tragedy
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:24 am
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strings10927 wrote:
I just want this news story to stop following me, and here it is again.


+1 but one thing is for certain: the government will find a way to curtail our civil and constitutional rights even more in the name of safety and defense from terrorism etc.


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Post subject: Re: Boston Marathon Tragedy
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:21 am
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I think that what's scary about this is that no terrorist group has come forward to take responsiblility for it. That means that more crazies in the US are just coming out of the woodwork.

It seems like with the recent rash of violent acts there are more people thinking that's the way to go. It's almost impossible to prepare for crazy people just going nuts. It can just happen any day :!:

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Post subject: Re: Boston Marathon Tragedy
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:27 am
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My sympathies and condolences to the families of the killed and injured. Tragic.

There are several schools of thought concerning the most appropriate response to terrorism and violence. They all have their pros and cons. None are without cons. Regardless of which style of response a person caters to I only hope that clearer heads will prevail. Whether one subscribes to the vengeance ideology or to prevention I only hope people will think before they act. Too many escalations of violance and terrorism result from acting without planning things through and considering the ramifications and various possible reactions and contingencies. Dealing with the criminally insane requires a greater degree of sanity and composure.

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Post subject: Re: Boston Marathon Tragedy
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:52 am
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There has been conflicting reports of a suspect under arrest.

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Post subject: Re: Boston Marathon Tragedy
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:31 pm
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1neeto wrote:
There has been conflicting reports of a suspect under arrest.


Those reports are apparently premature. I believe a suspect possibly has been identified and they may or may not actually be in custody for questioning but no one has at this moment yet been charged. I'm further unsure how a suspect or suspects will be charged and by whom they will be prosecuted. If a foreign national, Guantanamo Bay or a black site elsewhere is likely their next destination. If US citizen the scenario will be entirely different.


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Post subject: Re: Boston Marathon Tragedy
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:08 pm
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First, I want to do the condolences to the families affected by this tragedy, and a big good luck to the injured.

Sorry to my bad English, I hope to explain well

Here in Italy, the TV and radio talk lot that the chances of an attack inside the U.S.A. They are suspected people who do not want a tightening the sale and circulation of arms (see the latest tragic events). In fact, near the Finish of the race there was a memory for a victim of firearms. If it had been a terrorist attack outside, it was claimed...
Today, here in Rome, it was impossible approach to the American Embassy for safety reasons. To go to work I had to do a long ride. These types of events (attack USA) affect thousands of miles. However, I hope with all my heart, that the guilty are arrested and prosecuted.

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Post subject: Re: Boston Marathon Tragedy
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:25 pm
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Boston investigators having a "live" briefing at 5PM (EST).


http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/bestof ... arrest.cnn

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