an interesting video about the illuminati

No457 Snowy · **Posted:** Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:06 pm

Blertles wrote:

No457 Snowy wrote:

Well let me just say that I question things like the GFC happening, suburbs of Americans losing their homes and forced to sleep in carparks, Superannuation schemes losing more the 50% of their value overnight, waking up the next day to find that instead of retiring comfortably at 65 you will now have to work until at least 75 or maybe even 80 to have any hope for a semblance of the same standard of living you were set up to enjoy just yesterday, maybe no hope. I can't help wondering about forced Bank bailouts and entire Nations enslaved by massive debt, sometimes seemingly overnight.

I wonder when I see a country like Poland, the only country in the Central Europe in 2010 who's Government has not adopted the Euro, the only one enjoying solid Economic growth and not in recession and creating the most GDP in the EU, have it's President, most of his Officials, the former President of Poland and the President of the Bank of Poland, killed in a tragic plane crash. It seems very nasty things happen to Leaders who won't play the game.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ussia.html

Yeah, I can't help but wonder.....

I believe he was referring to this post Snowy.

Quote:

You suggested there was something suspicious about a plane crash and stated some things to support it - things that are wildly and very obviously incorrect. Are we not allowed to point that out?

I still don't understand what I've said that's been shown to be "Wildly and very obviously incorrect". I see here the details for Poland and wonder why I can't read it and see it as you've described and where I'm so wrong. It reads to me that my description was actually much closer than "Wildly incorrect". It even states, and I quote verbatum: "Poland is the only member of the European Union to have avoided recession, meaning that in 2009 Poland created the most GDP growth in the EU."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Recession_in_Europe

That statement also means that the comment you made about 2010 figures not being available until 2011 is not even applicable because you'll note it's 2009 that identifies Poland as creating the most GDP.

Lightnin MN · **Joined:** Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:14 pm **Posts:** 2561

[quote="No457 Snowy] ...I'll make it real easy for you. You believe what you want to believe and leave me alone to wonder what I want... Snowy[/quote]

WRONG... that is EXACTLY the problem !

People 'thinking' what they want to think !!

Mankind advanced from the Trees to land on the Moon because of Critical Thought

Critical thinking is the ability to apply reasoning and logic to unfamiliar ideas and situations. It is the intellectually disciplined process of actively and skillfully conceptualizing, applying, analyzing, synthesizing, and/or evaluating information gathered from, or generated by, observation, experience, reflection, reasoning, or communication, as a guide to belief and action.

We live in a world governed by PROBABILITIES... not POSSIBILITIES.

It is NOT OK to believe that water does not freeze at 0°C or that Gravity is a force which attracts matter away from the center of the Earth !

There is NOT a single piece of evidence that Lee Harvey Oswald wasn't the lone gunman in the JFK assassination...

There is NOT a single piece of evidence that Man didn't land on the Moon...

NOT a single piece of evidence that the terrorist attacks on 9/11 are ANYTHING but an organized attack by members of Al Qaida...

There are at least 100 reasons to prove that there are NO UFOs, yet millions of people believe they exist.

Unfortunately, we share the planet with an ever-increasing number of people who are poorly disciplined in their thinking and consequently, are easily duped into believing NONSENSE !!

cheers!

No457 Snowy · **Posted:** Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:24 pm

Lightnin MN wrote:

[quote="No457 Snowy] ...I'll make it real easy for you. You believe what you want to believe and leave me alone to wonder what I want... Snowy[/quote]

WRONG... that is EXACTLY the problem !

People 'thinking' what they want to think !!

Mankind advanced from the Trees to land on the Moon because of Critical Thought

Critical thinking is the ability to apply reasoning and logic to unfamiliar ideas and situations. It is the intellectually disciplined process of actively and skillfully conceptualizing, applying, analyzing, synthesizing, and/or evaluating information gathered from, or generated by, observation, experience, reflection, reasoning, or communication, as a guide to belief and action.

We live in a world governed by PROBABILITIES... not POSSIBILITIES.

It is NOT OK to believe that water does not freeze at 0°C or that Gravity is a force which attracts matter away from the center of the Earth !

There is NOT a single piece of evidence that Lee Harvey Oswald wasn't the lone gunman in the JFK assassination...

There is NOT a single piece of evidence that Man didn't land on the Moon...

NOT a single piece of evidence that the terrorist attacks on 9/11 are ANYTHING but an organized attack by members of Al Qaida...

There are at least 100 reasons to prove that there are NO UFOs, yet millions of people believe they exist.

Unfortunately, we share the planet with an ever-increasing number of people who are poorly disciplined in their thinking and consequently, are easily duped into believing NONSENSE !!

cheers![/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote]

Wow, so how could any of us even have any religious beliefs based on all that? Seems to rule out Resurrection, curing the sick with Miracles, etc. or are they a convenient exception?

Well I'm now done with the Fender Forum. Won't be posting here again.

I hope my contributions in the past have been of some benefit.

Have a good life.

bluesky636 · **Posted:** Sun Feb 17, 2013 11:09 pm

No457 Snowy wrote:

Well I'm now done with the Fender Forum. Won't be posting here again.

I hope my contributions in the past have been of some benefit.

Have a good life.

Snowy:

Threads like this are absolutely ridiculous and have no business in this forum. The only purpose they serve is to get people riled up and this one has succeded in doing just that. Totally useless.

But to get pissed off and quit over a thread like this is even more ridiculous. Stick with what you are good at; playing guitar and building amps. Stick around and post about those things but don't go running off over something as ridiculous as this thread.

Lightnin MN · **Joined:** Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:14 pm **Posts:** 2561

No457 Snowy wrote:

Wow, so how could any of us even have any religious beliefs based on all that? Seems to rule out Resurrection, curing the sick with Miracles, etc. or are they a convenient exception?

Well I'm now done with the Fender Forum. Won't be posting here again.

I hope my contributions in the past have been of some benefit.

Have a good life.

It's very simple... religious beliefs are based solely upon Faith. This means that no proof is required.

Sorry to see you go.

You have a good life too.. !!

cheers!

BMW-KTM · **Posted:** Mon Feb 18, 2013 1:26 am

Lightnin MN wrote:

There is NOT a single piece of evidence that Lee Harvey Oswald wasn't the lone gunman in the JFK assassination...

Just out of curiosity shall we assume then, that you subscribe to the magic bullet theory?

Drubbing · **Posted:** Mon Feb 18, 2013 2:15 am

BMW-KTM wrote:

Lightnin MN wrote:

There is NOT a single piece of evidence that Lee Harvey Oswald wasn't the lone gunman in the JFK assassination...

Just out of curiosity shall we assume then, that you subscribe to the magic bullet theory?

Just because there's lack of evidence for one thing, doesn't mean an even lower probability is the only default argument.

A Conspiracy theory like the JFK assassination occurs because people refuse to believe that such an audacious and public crime can go unsolved. I see that as a far bigger probability than the hordes of theories about the Cubans, Russians, Mafia and LBJ being involved together, to cover 'it' up.

What's more probable is there was an accomplice, and he/she got away with it. Sure, when two people are involved it becomes a 'conspiracy'. When you suggest a whole govt is doing it with others, it's lunacy.

Blertles · **Posted:** Mon Feb 18, 2013 2:38 am

Well this thread went down like a lead balloon.

Snowy and all the others who are 'believers' - dont let this put you off posting on a forum. But please keep topics relevant.

No stupid conspiracy theories please. They are ridiculous and stupid to say the least. Lots of other interesting topics to discuss.

And live life people, enjoy it for what it is. Don't get all caught up in this hype- it's not healthy.

How about posting pics up of your gear instead.

bluesky636 · **Posted:** Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:45 am

I have yet to understand how this thread and all other threads like it fullfill the stated purpose of this forum:

"This forum is for open public discussion of all things Fender and general music-related subjects."

RCB-CA-USA · **Joined:** Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:31 am **Posts:** 1281

Deluxe Matt wrote:

The thing that scares me is that if someone does come out with something real, we have all been conditioned to just pass them off as another nut. And as soon as someone is labeled a nut then it's like nothing they say is taken seriously. As if calling them a nut disproves everything.

Population Control Propagandist: “We Get Very Little Opposition From The Public”

Jurriaan Maessen
Infowars.com
Feb 1, 2013

During a recent lecture the head of the elite-funded, soap opera-producing Population Media Center admitted that his organization encounters “very little opposition of the public because of the very gradual evolution of the characters”.

The US-based Population Media Center, which produces soap operas worldwide with the aim of reducing populations, said that his organization hardly encounters any resistance from both governments and audiences in the nations where its melodramas are aired:

http://www.infowars.com/population-cont ... he-public/

Blertles · **Posted:** Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:54 am

this thread needs to be shut down.. It's beyond stupid now

bluesky636 · **Posted:** Mon Feb 18, 2013 7:40 am

Blertles wrote:

:roll: this thread needs to be shut down.. It's beyond stupid now

Agree. There are plenty of forums on the Internet where this kind of crap is discussed. None of this has anything to do with Fender, Fender's products, or music.

bluesky636 · **Posted:** Mon Feb 18, 2013 7:47 am

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53magnatone · **Posted:** Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:30 am

From the initial title of this thread I had a premonition ... :wink:

that following this thread's inevitable conclusion would prove to be a descent worthy of none other than the illustrious gentleman pictured below ... :shock:

bluesky636 · **Posted:** Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:35 am

53magnatone wrote:

From the initial title of this thread I had a premonition ... :wink:

that following this thread's inevitable conclusion would prove to be a descent worthy of none other than the illustrious gentleman pictured below ... :shock:

Always loved those turtleneck sweaters they wore. :lol:

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