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To the sheep: free your mind. The illuminati-forced bank bailout was the latest conclusive proof. No room for debate.

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Let me accord you recognition here. Musically, we look at things differently. So what. You show signs of being aware. Haven't seen much of that in this forum.

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LMAO!!

You have got to be kidding. You guys would believe absolutely anything if someone told you it was a conspiracy. Just like 21 Dec 2012..??? Still alive huh??

Please.

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Apples and oranges.

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Just think of how awesome a guitar player you could have been by now if you had only spent the last 10 years practicing instead of obsessing over pickups and roasted maple necks.

Well let me just say that I question things like the GFC happening, suburbs of Americans losing their homes and forced to sleep in carparks, Superannuation schemes losing more the 50% of their value overnight, waking up the next day to find that instead of retiring comfortably at 65 you will now have to work until at least 75 or maybe even 80 to have any hope for a semblance of the same standard of living you were set up to enjoy just yesterday, maybe no hope. I can't help wondering about forced Bank bailouts and entire Nations enslaved by massive debt, sometimes seemingly overnight.

I wonder when I see a country like Poland, the only country in the Central Europe in 2010 who's Government has not adopted the Euro, the only one enjoying solid Economic growth and not in recession and creating the most GDP in the EU, have it's President, most of his Officials, the former President of Poland and the President of the Bank of Poland, killed in a tragic plane crash. It seems very nasty things happen to Leaders who won't play the game.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ussia.html

Yeah, I can't help but wonder.....

Wrong. More like the ones being told that any perceived wrongdoing is a conspiracy. That is a case of believing anything one is told. Perspicacity is now called conspiracy.

12/21/2012 was good marketing for survival providers. They made a mint. It was also a test to see just how asleep and gullible people are. On one side you have a group ready for flying saucers to rescue them, on the other side you have people believing the official stories of some events that have happened in the past 12 or so years. Lastly there are the people who feel like the are in the Stealers Wheels song, "Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right............"

They get called conspiracy theorists.

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False Flag war and terrror operations are a pretty good place to start if you want to research the "illuminati", i.e., eugenicist racists:

David Rockefeller said, “All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order.”

http://theupliftingcrane.wordpress.com/2010/07/16/1936/

Here's a brief history of false flag terror operations; meaning, all wars, all terror we read about in history class and see on the news, *all* are false flag operations, including what we are witnessing on the "news" presently, all false, all staged wars)

History of American False Flag Operations
(Highlights)

Mexican Wars 1819, 1846-48
Spanish-American War 1898
World War I 1914-1918
World War 2, 1939-1945
Korean War 1950-1953
Vietnam War 1964
Grenada Invasion 1983
War on Drugs 1971
Panama Invasion 1989
US-Israeli Sponsored War between Iraq and Iran, 1980-1988
Desert Storm (First Gulf war), 1991
War on Terror 2001
Enduring Freedom (Afghanistan Invasion) 2001
Enduring Justice (Second Gulf War) 2003

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I've seen them all. But you don't understand that all of these stupid theories only exist on YouTube. I don't see any leaked official documents, no whistle blowers, no factual documented evidence, no government investigations (please dont post a youtube video to justify) You want to see protests about your so called illuminati?? Seen any lately!? And there was one about the illuminati and 2012... Aaaaaaand I'm still alive and no militarised take overs and detention camps to be seen. lol.

I see green peace and other organisations protest all the time. I see them protesting about REAL things. If you can believe the Illuminati exist like in the Dan Brown novels, then you will believe that there really is a planet of the apes.

Here's some readings for you believers:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picture ... story.html

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...can you handle the truth?

I've got all the facts you need. Let's start with Codex Alimentarius, a "government" document. Dr. Rema Laibow's primer on Codex Alimentarius, Dr. Rema a "whistle blower", she presents factual, documented evidence of the "illuminati" and their plans to depopulate humanity and then enslave what's left of humanity whilst they enjoy life extension, as you requested:



When you're done reviewing those facts, we'll move on to Agenda 21.

When we're done with Codex Alimentarius and Agenda 21, we'll move on to the religiosity behind these insidious plans.

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Like I've said, I'm not even going to bother with it if its on YouTube. Present me something from the New York Times, BBC, Wall St Journal, Times Magazine, National Geographic or any other relevant source of current affairs information and I will listen to your theories. Otherwise I won't even go there.

The majority of info on these seem to only be on YouTube that are made on an amateur level by people that are so paranoid it's not funny.

Best live life and focus your energy on good things in life and not worry about outlandish theories.

I'm out- I'm not going to argue my point anymore and I'm sure Brad will shut this thread down anyway.

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Hi guys. Some entertaining posts on this thread. My eye was caught by this:

Just to inject a tiny spoonful of reality: Poland is not the only EU country not to adopt the Euro, it is in fact one of ten countries outside the Eurozone, including mine. There are 27 EU countries: 17 are in the Euro, ten are not.

Also, in 2012 Poland's growth rate was 2.4%. Pretty good in the current climate but not at all the best in Europe. For example, Slovakia was 2.6%, Lithuania 2.9 and Latvia 4.3. Out of 33 European countries both in and outside the EU 11 were in recession in 2012, 22 were not.

Not quite clear what any of that has to do with a plane crash two and half years ago, no matter what caused it. But at any rate, Poland's is not the only leadership who "won't play the game".

...I know: reality's kinda boring, isn't it?

Cheers - C

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Sorry I meant "Central Europe" I have edited my original post.
Mixing 2012 figures with figures from a point in time two and a half years ago confuses the issue, Poland WAS the only EU Nation to avoid a recession by 2010. In 2010 the economic growth rate was 3.9%. The other countries, at that time, were/are already enslaved in debt, so in respect to those Governments, as you point out, not "playing" there was nothing to do there, the Central Bank system already had them on the borrowing treadmill.

The relevance of the plane crash? It's called "changing the Government"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Poland

http://articles.cnn.com/2010-06-29/worl ... s=PM:WORLD

Like I said ...I wonder... and if just wondering makes me a Nut Job, so be it, but I don't buy that a lot of major events that have occurred in the world just happened without the manipulation and influence of interested parties.

Hi again No457 Snowy: well, we can use whichever year and whichever bit of the Continent you prefer.

In 2010 Poland's growth rate was 3.9%, as you say. And Germany's was 4.2 and Sweden's 6.6. In 2010 seven out of 33 European countries were in recession, the rest were not. Poland was not the only European country to avoid recession in 2010, by a long chalk.

I admit I'm scratching my head trying to work out what conspiracy you are sensing here? Are you saying that you think the Polish Prime Minister died in a plane crash in April 2010 because someone somewhere didn't like Poland's economic statistics for that year? But how would they know? The figures for 2010 didn't come out till early 2011.

Or is it Poland's non-membership of the Euro you think brought that plane down? Of the Central European countries you say you meant to cite Estonia, Slovakia and Slovenia are in the Euro, the rest are not. Poland is not the only mid or east European country not in the Euro.

Or is it the combination of growth in 2010 and non-membership of the Euro that made someone want to kill Poland's leader? Well, Germany, Sweden and Slovakia all had higher growth than Poland: Germany and Slovakia are in the Euro, Sweden not. Lots of non-Euro countries were in growth that year and didn't have their Prime Ministers die unexpectedly.

None of it adds up, whichever way you stack it. Can you explain your theory a bit more clearly, please?

It is certainly true that conspiracy theories over that air crash started about five minutes after the plane came down. There are many and exotic theories, all of which are boringly contradicted by what actually happened that day.

However, as yet nobody has suggested that mysterious dark forces plotted to crash that plane because of Poland's economic performance in 2010. That's a new one.

Cheers - C

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