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Post subject: Why do people think rock is dead?
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:34 pm
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This is what got me thinking on the matter. I've seen it here, but then I saw it on my newsfeed. Why do you think rock is dead? I gave this guy 2 great examples and he still thinks this way.

Sure, there's other genres competing, and sure, it isn't as popular as it used to be, but come on, it really isn't hard to sift through the garbage and find decent bands.


But can someone explain why they/other people think rock is dead?


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Post subject: Re: Why do people think rock is dead?
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:57 pm
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Did this person make the comment after they saw your examples of "good rock bands?" :wink:

I don't think rock is dead, but I do think that no one gets on the radio these days without being raped by record labels or knowing somebody or already known. So it's limited. There are some damn good bands out there playing clubs. Really good original rock.


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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:59 pm
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did you even read the post?

The comment was made before I put the examples.

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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:05 pm
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What are people doing with all the guitars they buy then? Playing tennis with them?

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Post subject: Re: Why do people think rock is dead?
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:07 pm
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What do you mean?

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Post subject: Re: Why do people think rock is dead?
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:01 pm
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funny... I have a 15 year old son who walks around with a Hendrix t-shirt and listens to all my albums... and yes, I mean the vinyl ones. Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, The Who, The Beatles...
The only people who think rock is dead are the ones who don't listen to it, or maybe it ain't up their alley.
Same type of people said Big Band was dead? Blues? Classical? Jazz? Fusion? Art Rock? Maybe it ain't popular, but none of it is dead if people are still playing it, and getting paid to do so... that 15 year old I mentioned? i just turned him on to Perry Como's Route 66... SMOKIN' trombone solo in that song!

Rest assured Bux, Rock and Roll is alive and well and will be around for centuries.

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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:19 pm
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Buxom wrote:
did you even read the post?

The comment was made before I put the examples.


That's what the wink was for. I didn't like the bands you used for examples. I was being a smart@#$. Everyone likes different styles so don't take it personally. I agree with you that rock is definitely not dead. Lots of good music out there even if you have to search a little to find some of it.


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Post subject: Re: Why do people think rock is dead?
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:25 am
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I'm having trouble caring about the opinions of a couple of kids on Mytwitterface.
I don't understand the question. :?


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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:27 am
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Only the brain dead think rock is dead. It's a projection. :shock:

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Post subject: Re: Why do people think rock is dead?
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:53 am
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I'd hazard a guess that a lot of people think rock is dead due to most new bands which get the 'rock' tag sounding like the ones in those two videos, personally. :lol:

No offence intended, I'm sure they're great, but they're not my sort of thing at all. Horses for courses and all that. :D

Seriously though, rock is as alive as it ever was. It's just harder to find decent modern examples than it used to be.


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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:58 am
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Blindfolded people with their brains washed by bass frequencies in discothekes, where there are songs played which were done on computers by non-musicians who don't even know how to play an istrument and use programs to create sounds and have keys and modes automatically adapted by program functions. :lol:

Some just don't like rock and don't listen to it. Therefore they know nothing about the rock scene.

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Post subject: Re: Why do people think rock is dead?
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:13 am
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ok i listened to your examples - im not suprised nobody is listening to rock if thats what you're trying to persuade them with :( . i appreciate their will be some people who like it, but its so far away even from the general publics conception of 'rock', it wont even get a look in. people who buy records that get into the charts think of rock as bands like queen, bon jovi, U2, zeppelin, hendrix.

not tiny unknown bands who are creating a sound that is something that could be very easily dismissed as too 'weird'. i have to admit, both those videos i couldnt watch all the way through. the first one sounded like early white stripes but much worse and less understandable. and the second one, the singing done my head in.

for rock to be accepted in the mainstream again, i think it needs to be more relevant to what the general guy in the street knows as rock. ok so it might mean just tramping over old ground music wise, but to be honest id rather listen to a band re-living the days of zeppelin/acdc/whoever than listening to those 2 videos again.

Kasabian seem to have nailed being a relatively recent rock band that are critically accepted and also perform very well in the charts, in the UK at least.

Rival Sons are a rock band along the lines of what i think could be 'generally accepted'. it sounds familiar enough to the bands i mentioned earlier to not alienate average joe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIJ-tLEBWqI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ijOlAR3zs8
the song doesnt kick in until a minute into the video. sorry i cant work out the embed magicness. :?

they wont be to everybody tastes, but its got more chance of being 'accepted' than the more obscure ends of the rock spectrum.


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Post subject: Re: Why do people think rock is dead?
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:34 am
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Ha.

For at least the last century there have been people who thought it was smart to pop up and say that some form or other is dead. The novel is dead, cinema is dead, art is dead, music is dead - yadda yadda yadda.

It's the sort of thing people say when they have nothing to say. It's meaningless static.

...On the other hand, rock most definitely is not one of the central cultural forms that it used to be. Now it's just one choice from a vast smorgasbord.

Probably that's mostly good. But a bit of me does miss some things about what it used to be like, when rock mattered. [Ceri settles happily down into his rocking chair, lights up a pipe and prepares to bore the grandchildren he doesn't have with tales of The Good Ol' Days...]

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Post subject: Re: Why do people think rock is dead?
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:42 am
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I can agree with a lot of what Buxom is getting at.Today's top 40 schmaltz pop music looks like it has pushed good old rock and roll to a back burner.There is a propensity these days for people to be gravitated to the mindless,vacuous,mass produced drivel that's being pumped out over the airwaves like mass quanities of audio effluent. Sadly a lot of those growing up today are so shallow that the meaning of lyrics and messages that songs are meant to be getting across are secondary or of very little importance,they seemed more concerned with whether they can dance to it and the monotonous repetitive bass drum beat is what draws them to a song.

It appears that the number of young people who are drawn to music for music's sake and the messages of the songs is certainly a minority.A lot of FM stations that were once rock orientated are now pandering to the younger "dance music" addicted audience as the once highest rated rock station here did a couple of years ago and surprisingly they are still the most listened to station despite the fact that the demographic of their listening audience has changed completely and is now mostly comprised of teeny bopper girls who fantasize about Justa Beaver and others of his ilk.

Although there is still a large number of the younger folks buying guitars etc.,a lot of them just end up on ebay etc. or poked into a closet.I wouldn't go so far to say that rock as we know it is dead,but it is certainly going through a hiatus.Thank God there are still young folks with enough on the ball so that they aren't swayed into following today's trends like sheep and are capable of independant thought and making their own choices,it is these kids who are picking up the torch to keep rock alive. I have no doubt that some day in the not too distant future people will tire of the mass produced generic mush that's assailing our ears these days and once again rock and roll will be king.

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Post subject: Re: Why do people think rock is dead?
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:59 am
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I think rock has toned down, especially since I was a teenager in the 90's when music was pretty awesome however, despite the popularity of talentless mass produced force-fed drivel that seems to polute the airwaves today, rock will never be gone. it has always been there consistently- even through disco and will always be..

This thread reminds me of the song 'rock and roll ain't noise pollution'

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